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Regarding Vaccine Discrimination

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  • まるん
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  • 2021/06/03 07:11

The other day I saw an article on Yahoo News titled "Vaccine Discrimination Visible in the U.S."
The story is about the divisiveness that has emerged, with vaccinated people excluding unvaccinated people from their circle of friends, etc.
I heard from people around me that this is actually happening in the Japanese American community.
Personally, I think that whether or not to vaccinate is a personal choice, and it is not right to impose it, and if you are worried, you should have a PCR test done before the meeting to make sure it is negative ？.
I understand your concern about large gatherings such as home parties, but even people who are vaccinated are not absolutely safe, so it's not right to have large gatherings at this point in the first place.
I feel that people who push vaccines are often people who think that what they think is right is 100 percent right, or people who are closed-minded, like "I don't hang out with people who aren't on social media."
I have many other friends who don't vaccinate, and even if they do, vaccines are a personal choice, so I'm glad to be rid of people who are personally intrusive and closed-minded, though.

I was recently told by my boss at work that if I don't vaccinate, I will only work online.
Since I have to deal with clients on a commission basis, working online only would certainly result in fewer clients and less pay.
I get PCR every week and almost all of my clients say I don't have to get vaccines, but in the end it's all about the boss's pride that all employees at my office get vaccines and it's great. It's definitely vaccine discrimination. I would think that someone who wears a mask and diligently refrains from wearing it like a PCR even if they haven't been vaccinated is safer than someone who takes off their mask and parties because they have been vaccinated. I am thinking of quitting my workplace at this time because this boss is a true pushover, has a bad reputation with clients, and is known for his moral harassment.
I have other friends who are changing jobs for the same reason.

He says vaccines are to protect others, but he discriminates against people and eliminates their jobs, how is that protecting others?
How is it around you guys ？ Please share your experiences.

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#77

The numbers shown by the bystander are only for the present time, right? Vaccines may have an effect after a few years （ so originally they do clinical trials over a number of years ）, so I don't think the numbers at the moment are helpful at all.
The numbers that are said to be 90% effective, etc., are also not numbers that came out after years of clinical trials. They are figures based on instant clinical trials, and I don't trust them much either. Also, you say that if I am allergic to something, I should just tell my boss, but I already told him that. As others have said, please don't make assumptions about people's situations and then be sarcastic.

By the way, what does everyone mean by "tahan" ？?

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#78
  • まるん
  • 2021/06/09 (Wed) 06:14
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Thanks again everyone for all your input.
The Pakistan thing is terrible. Was there some other country that didn't help non-vaccinated people during natural disasters ？

Mr. Allergy

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I am glad that your doctor was very understanding. I hope it is not too stressful for you and your allergies that you have become permanently remote.

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#79
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  • 2021/06/09 (Wed) 07:50
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I heard that Geert Vanden Bossche(Geert ・ Vanden ・ Posche(Posch)》, who was a senior director of vaccine development under Bill Gates, is against the corona vaccine only. He is properly interviewed face to face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro&t=635s

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#80
  • スパイクタンパク質
  • 2021/06/09 (Wed) 07:54
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The problem seems to be this spike protein

which means that both the corona-infected and vaccinated people are in trouble

I've got a corona infection

and it's all over now

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#81
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  • 2021/06/09 (Wed) 08:50
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> The numbers at this point in time are not helpful at all
You're right that no one knows what the future holds, but it's an indisputable fact that the odds of dying from infection at this point in time are two orders of magnitude greater than the odds of dying from the vaccine. Moreover, the fact that about 1.8% of people who get infected will die probably has nothing to do with the passage of time, unless a new treatment method is found in the future." To say "not helpful at all" just sounds like subjective emotionalism, and I would feel it more appropriate to say "this is the only data that can be used as a reference at this point in time".

> the numbers that are said to be 90% effective, etc.
This refers to the infection protection rate. I think the way to come up with the numbers was on the drug company's website, but I think it is based on a comparison test with a fake drug, and not the type of thing you are talking about over time. I guess time will have an effect on the appearance of mutants ？ to what extent. But in the end, it is a possibility and a threat that will continue forever, and there will be completely new viruses, and I feel that if we start talking about that, the day will never come when we can say that we are safe/secure.

> You say if you're allergic, just tell your boss
No, that was someone else's statement. I told them that both employees and business owners have the freedom to do what they want, and if they don't like it, they can just quit.

> "Tahan"
I meant people who use numerous handles. Have you written under any other name before ？?

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