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エルカミノのESL
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- Ruka
- 2003/02/20 21:52
EL CAMINO COLLEGEのESLを取ったことのある方、もしくは今セミを取ってる方、クラスの内容や、レベルなど情報ください。普通の英語のクラスとどう違うのかなぁ?やっぱり日本人はESLでないと着いていけないのかなぁ?
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基本的にカレッジでは留学生を対象にした入学試験を受けさせられます。
そのテストの結果によってESLを取らないといけない人もでてくるし、またESLを免除される人もでてきます。
だいたいのカレッジのプレイスメントテストはエッセイでしょう。
ということで、個人的に取る取らないを決められないと思います。
- #4
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私もELSと普通の英語(2Rや1Aなど)の違いを知りたいです。両方取ったことのある人いますか?
Placement Testでは2Rに満たしたのたすが、内容によっては最初にESLにすべきか迷っています。
- #5
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JSLを先に取ったほうがいいと思いますよ。 それに2Rとか1AとかそういうLOCALな番号を説明なしで、公共の場に投稿し、平気でいるあなたを私は不思議に思いますよ。 あと ELS=ESL? ちょっと厳しいかもしれないけど、一日本人留学生として少しでも常識を付けてもらいたいと思って傲慢かまさせてもらいました。
- #6
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EL CAMINO在学中の友人達数名曰く、貴校のESL教師は日本人を毛嫌いしているらしい。
なぜなら、Japaneseは頭弱いし、遊び人ばっかりだから、だそうです。
そんな状況を貴方たち新入生諸君が変えてくれる事を祈る。 以上。
- #8
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が,指摘ありがとうございました.でも,どこのカレッジでも日本人は毛嫌いされています.理由は上の通りでしょう.皆さん,頑張ってください.
- #10
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JSLですか?Japaese as Second Languageってことですね。厳しいご指摘ですね。私も留学生ではないです。こちらでは長く働いていますが、仕事の後の時間を有効に使いたいと思って夜のクラスでカレッジに行こうと考えました。在学生からの情報を聞きたかったので1A や2Rといった内部での用語を使わせて頂きました。ここへは真剣に情報交換を求めても揚げ足を取られてしまうのは残念です。
#8さん、、さん有り難うございました。
クラスの内容の違いは自分で調べてみようと思います。Rukaさんもガンバって。
- #11
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ほんとにみんな揚げ足ばっかり。。。私は現役のエルカミ生で一般の授業と平行してESLもとってきましたが、先生もとてもよくしてくれたし(特に日本人を差別するというような先生には出会わなかった)、ESLとってよかったと思っています。ESLのクラスの方が、ネイティブスピーカー用のクラスよりも授業と指導内容がきめ細かいと思います。(普通の英語のクラスをとっている留学生の友達及び、ネイティブスピーカーの友達の両方の話しと比較しても)丁寧に英語を外国語として勉強したいならESLがいいと思います。
- #12
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エルカミ生さん、アドバイス有り難うございます。やっぱりここで情報を求めてよかった。揚げ足の取り合いってここではよくあるみたいですね。顔が見えないと何でも言いたい放題なのかなぁ?
今セミは2Rを取ってしまったので、このまま受けてみて、ESLもAddが可能なら受けようと思います。たしかもう締め切っちゃったかな?
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