Vivinavi : Los Angeles : (United States) Los Angeles

• 鉄板
• 2022/08/20 (Sat) 19:06
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There are a lot of scams ！
I don't want to waste my time communicating with you ！ and I don't want you to do it .

• sc
• 2022/08/20 (Sat) 22:03
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Dear #3

Please give me the details. I don't want to be fooled.

• めいちゃん
• 2022/08/20 (Sat) 22:07
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I would like to know too.

• にゃんこ
• 2022/08/21 (Sun) 05:42
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If you are asking for a preview and they ask you to submit an application first anyway, it is very suspicious
What I mean is, it is a process of submit an application (= pay the fee at the same time).
If they tell you at the beginning that you need to have a fee at the same time, you may somehow decide not to do it.
However, if you are told that a fee is required after you have written time and entered various information, or if you are asked to pay a fee
you may psychologically be inclined to pay it.
You may think, ～ ！ after spending all this time, but don't pay it.
Of course, you can't submit the FORM itself either.
Please be careful.

• 被害にあったら
• 2022/08/21 (Sun) 06:05
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If you keep all of your email and text correspondence and take it to the bank, they will make up the amount of your loss. Of course, the bank will have to check it out first. In some cases, you may be paid for the fraud first. If the bank then investigates and finds that it was not fraudulent, that amount will be deducted, but you will receive a letter explaining it properly.
I was scammed too, and when I went to the bank I used to make the payment, I was told that they should discuss the case with me "within 60 days" of the scam. （ Maybe it varies from bank to bank ）

If you were scammed, don't give up, recover your losses ！.

• 被害にあったら
• 2022/08/21 (Sun) 15:11
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You said I should take it to the bank.............................................I meant correctly, contact customer service. I went to the bank first. (;^_^
I was told that Customer Service has a section dedicated to fraud, so I called them. So, I had almost $2000 in monetary damage online, and I got the full amount back. （ I mean, I got it back, but it turned out to be a scam and the bank covered it ）.

• ワクチン義務化
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 14:42
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If you move within the bounds of common sense, you cannot be deceived.

• てつ
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 18:47
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There it is.
The one that has nothing to do with the topic and has no advice, but seems to want to say something anyway.
I really don't need this.
I think there are a lot of people who want to know what to do or what kind of scams there are, because scammers try to cheat people in various ways. It has been a social problem for a long time.

Anyway, people who try to speed things up are suspicious.
As ↑ person wrote, people who say "do application and fee" without even seeing the room are scammers who are exploiting personal information and fee in detail.
Even if you ask them to show you the room first, they will say that they need to check if it is qualified, or they will come up with some other reason.
If you like the property, you may be tempted to... Some people become. There are often cases where people who think I am not cheated become the party who is cheated.

• めいちゃん
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 19:50
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Really, there are a lot of wasted responses like #11 in every topic.
Thanks to everyone except #11.

#7, do you mean that if I talk to the bank where I have my account, rather than using a wire transfer or something, they will take care of that?

• 被害にあったら
• 2022/08/22 (Mon) 23:35
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If you paid with a card or check, it seems that you should go to that bank because they will have proof of payment, whatever it was. I don't think it is very common in this day and age to pay with cash, but if you paid with cash, no bank will handle it. （ But this is my guess as a layman ）

I went to the bank of the card I used when I made a purchase on the internet. Because the bank has a record of how much I paid to whom on XXXX day with that card. And I explained to them over the phone what I had done at that time, such as exchanging e-mails. There was no record online of the delivery of the purchase, so the bank's fraud department looked into it from there. The money was made up shortly after I told them I was a victim. The fraud department then said they would look into it. And if they found out that I had lied, they would seize the amount of money that had been made up. （ I think they said it was plus interest or a penalty ？. I didn't ask for details about that because I wasn't lying💦 ）.

• めいちゃん
• 2022/08/23 (Tue) 00:30
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Thank you for the detailed explanation. I am thinking of moving and will look for a place to live with care. I hope that even one less person will be affected.