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• 関係ない
• 2022/06/01 (Wed) 23:38
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You will be fine as before.
Visa is required to enter Japan as an American

Not checked at the ticket counter in the US

• でんです
• 2022/06/01 (Wed) 23:53
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Thank you very much, no matter.
I heard that they also check documents such as PCR tests, etc., so I was worried that maybe if I showed them my American passport, they would ask me ？ for my visa.
I was told that it would not be checked at the ticket counter. I was relieved.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/02 (Thu) 06:56
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Is the dual nationality a child born in the United States?
Or is it an adult male or female who has acquired American citizenship from Japanese citizenship?

• ボケ
• 2022/06/02 (Thu) 08:42
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When you buy a ticket, you enter your passport number
At the airport counter, they check your passport to make sure it is correct
If you show a non-Japanese passport, they also check your visa depending on the country.　Because if you can't enter Japan, you have to return it at the airline's expense
＃ 2 is 30 years ago ？ ？

• 関係ない
• 2022/06/02 (Thu) 10:34
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I was able to go home normally at the end of last year ？
You don't have to believe me, though.

• ボケ
• 2022/06/02 (Thu) 12:14
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＞ not confirmed at the ticket counter in the US

not that you can go home or not, but that ↑ you're still of the opinion that it's a lie, because I'm pretty sure they do confirm it.

• pooske
• 2022/06/10 (Fri) 21:57
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It is the same as before. The first method described is fine. I have already returned home three times with the Corona disaster.
I will return next month, but as before. The government will say that dual citizenship is not allowed if they find out, but if they don't know, there is nothing they can do. Also, the procedure to revoke Japanese nationality is very difficult, so they threaten. It's illegal, they say, but there is no fine ！.

• でんです
• 2022/06/10 (Fri) 23:32
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Thanks for the information, pooske. I am relieved to hear that I can use the same method as before.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 07:37
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＃ The government will say no to dual citizenship if they find out, but if they don't know, there is nothing they can do. Also, the procedure to revoke Japanese citizenship is very difficult, so they threaten. It's illegal, they say, but there is no fine ！

https://www.kaigaikk.com/when-japanese-government-knows-you-are-not-japanese-anymore/

（ LOSS OF NATIONALITY ）

Article 11 A Japanese citizen shall lose his Japanese nationality if he acquires the nationality of a foreign country at his own volition.

A Japanese citizen who acquires the nationality of a foreign country of his/her own volition （ naturalized in another country ） automatically loses Japanese nationality at that time.

• 星
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 08:15
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So, dual citizenship is illegal
You are already guilty.
Think about it, give up your Japanese or American citizenship immediately. You will be found out sooner or later.

• 自己責任
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 08:43
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So if you are asked at immigration when you enter Japan （ they ask you recently ） how do you answer ？ lie and say you don't have an American passport ？ ？
at that point it is a felony for false application. You can be fined and even put in jail （ lol ）

• 倍金萬
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 08:52
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＞ The procedure to revoke Japanese citizenship is very difficult

It's not a procedure, it's a huge hassle to find out, to put it bluntly. We first went to the ward office where we have our legal domicile to make sure that our Japanese pension would be sent here, and they asked us, "What status are you currently in the U.S.? I told him honestly that I had already obtained U.S. citizenship, and it was a simple process.

I feel uncomfortable using a legally invalid Japanese passport to enter Japan after leaving here with a U.S. passport, because it seems like committing a crime.

• 正直者は馬鹿を見る
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 09:15
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However, except for the case of Mr. Baiman who has to prove that he is a Japanese citizen in order to receive a pension or to be involved in the government's financial procedures, Japanese people born in Japan are not bothering anyone whether they renounce their nationality or not, so they do not bother to spend money on human rights. I'm talking about the fact that they don't bother to spend the human rights money to move. ？

Theft continues to happen, but they can't stop it because they don't go to jail.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 10:44
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There was the Korean Air bombing of Shinichi Hachiya and Mayumi Hachiya with forged passports impersonating Japanese nationals.

Fusako Shigenobu, a former Red Army member, entered Japan illegally using a forged passport obtained illegally
and repeatedly entered and left Japan from Kansai International Airport 16 times in total.

I don't understand why she would change her nationality of her own volition and still use a Japanese passport to enter Japan
.

• 現状は
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 11:08
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Well, there seem to be a lot of people who use both Japanese and U.S. passports.

• ボケぼけ
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 12:04
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#14 Honesty is foolish

＞ Talk about spending human rights money and not moving.

Human rights expenses ？ ？ （ LOL ） When you enter Japan, if you scan your Japanese passport, the computer will instantly know when you left Japan before
Anyone who's been used to Japan for a year or two knows it's crazy. And you don't have a US visa
don't talk about theft and forgery of nationality at the same time （ lol ）

• でんです
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 12:10
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Thank you for all your opinions.

It was interesting to read that there are always people who get upset when it comes to dual citizenship.

This thread is not about debating the legality of dual citizenship. I was asking how people with Japanese and US passports should use their passports differently in the Corona Disaster. If you deviate from this, it will be very difficult for me to find the information I need, which is very annoying. If you are not knowledgeable about the matter, or if you do not have both a Japanese and an American passport, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from commenting.

I can see that you are frustrated, but self-control is always necessary in social life. I would like you to behave in a way that does not annoy the other （ readers ）.

• 自己責任
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 12:12
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Recently, when renewing a Japanese passport, they always ask the question, "Do you have another nationality?
So unless you "lie" again here, you cannot get a new Japanese passport.

In other words, sooner or later, within 10 years, you won't be able to renew your expired Japanese passport, so you should just do it now
If they get angry, you can just return the Japanese passport, and although it is gray now, a crime is still a crime, and you will be fined some money in court. I heard there is a fine in court.

• ボケぼけボケ
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 12:19
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#18 I'm Den

I'm telling you ～ that it's illegal for anyone other than minors to use it
you don't understand that ～ if you want to use it, do it, if you do it, it's your responsibility, don't ask people.

• 正直者は馬鹿を見る
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 15:45
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You just don't like it because you had to give up your Japanese citizenship to get your pension ？ lol

yes, ignore ！

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 16:53
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＃ This question is for people who have Japanese and American passports and how they should use their passports differently in the Corona Disaster.
If you were born in the U.S., you can have both Japanese and U.S. passports until you reach a certain age.
Did you acquire U.S. citizenship of your own volition as an adult male or female?

Please answer this question first.
Is Mr. Den-Den a minor who was born in the U.S. and is still a minor?
Or are you an adult man or woman who acquired U.S. citizenship of your own volition?

• 星
• 2022/06/11 (Sat) 19:33
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Dual nationality passport usage
you don't even know that
you got US citizenship what are you thinking?
I'm not being indifferent, and a sin is a sin
You should be aware of that.

• 国籍
• 2022/06/12 (Sun) 06:43
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Mr. Den-Desu
First of all, I would like to ask you a question. You mentioned that you use your Japanese passport when you enter and leave Japan. If you have US citizenship, you should not already have a green card. If you use your Japanese passport when entering and leaving Japan, does that mean you have been in and out of Japan within 3 months ？ or did they not stamp your passport when you left Japan ？ If it is after 3 months when you next come to Japan, you should submit something like a green card or visa, otherwise why would you stay in the US for a long time? ？ If I don't submit a green card or a visa or something when I enter Japan next time, won't they ask me why I was in the US for a long time ？ I was wondering if you could tell me ？
I also read on the Japanese consulate's web that when I go to get my Corona visa now, I should first get my Japanese citizenship disqualified before I go through the Corona visa process.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/12 (Sun) 07:07
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Since dual nationality is not allowed in Japan, if you have dual nationality, you must
choose between Japanese nationality or foreign nationality by a certain period of time.
If you have dual nationality before you turn 20 years old, such as if you had dual nationality at birth, you must make your choice by age 22;
if you became a dual national after age 20, you must make your choice within 2 years from that time.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/06/12 (Sun) 09:25
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＞ You just don't like it because you had to renounce your Japanese citizenship to get your pension


Not at all.

My wife's pension-related information on record with the Social Insurance Agency was incorrect, so it was not being remitted here in the US, and I just went to the Social Insurance Agency to correct that on my trip to Japan. I went to the ward office where I have my legal domicile as a first step, and they told me that if I am a U.S. citizen, I should follow the appropriate procedures, and my legal domicile was corrected.

What is the idea behind the "I don't like it" thing?


Sorry for being off-topic, Topi. I will be careful from now on. Also, please feel free to delete any off-topic responses, including this one.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/12 (Sun) 10:14
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Because social life depends on the law,
if you can't be found, you can't be found.

The penalties for drunk driving are heavy, so
Don't drink if you are going to ride, and don't ride if you are going to drink.
Don't give in to temptation.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/13 (Mon) 07:15
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Since adult men and women change their nationality of their own volition,
they should claim it only after the Japanese government approves it.

Consider that it is against the law to claim dual citizenship without authorization by the Japanese government.

• バカみたい
• 2022/06/13 (Mon) 07:42
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There are people who get angry and slam people with a sense of justice when this topic comes up, but there is no harm in a stranger using both Japanese and U.S. passports, so just leave it alone.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/13 (Mon) 08:06
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After all, social life is possible because we are human beings and obey the law.

If a stranger doesn't obey the speed limit, there is no harm done.

According to the Rifle Association, guns are not to blame, but people who use them are.

• でんさんに一票
• mail
• 2022/06/15 (Wed) 18:04
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I think you will be fine as you have been.
I don't know if I can be of any help since I have never been back since the corona disaster ・ ・ ・.

Now foreigners need a visa to enter Japan, so they will have to enter and leave with a Japanese passport.
When you come back to the U.S., check in with your US passport, and I think you can do the same when you enter the U.S.

＞ It was interesting to read that some people always get upset when it comes to dual citizenship.
I really agree with you.
I don't know why they get so pissed off when they are not bothering anyone ？
On the contrary, I want to support Japanese people who have dual citizenship.
In addition to the current declining birthrate, it is a loss to the Japanese nation when talented Japanese go abroad and lose their Japanese citizenship once they own the nationality of that country.
75% of countries around the world allow dual citizenship.
In this global society, when I see consulates that still do not recognize dual citizenship and are desperate to take away Japanese citizenship, as well as numerous critical comments, I am saddened to see that the Japanese people still have deep-rooted island-nation roots.
However, I believe that Japan will come to recognize dual citizenship in less than 10 years.

I know there will be those who will say "Oh well", but please think of it as a whisper in the wind and get over it with ease.
Please don't ever sign the notice of loss of Japanese nationality ！
I support you wholeheartedly.

Please have a safe trip to Japan ～ ！

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/16 (Thu) 07:49
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＃ Consulates are trying hard to take away Japanese citizenship
If the Japanese people don't obey the law, I guess the consulates will take the lead in obeying the law.

If the consulate says, "You have dual citizenship, yes, we will issue you a passport with no problem,"
the people will not obey the law, the consulate will not obey the law, there is no law at all,
even if you kill someone in downtown, it is not guilty by self-defense, it is a mess.

• てか
• 2022/06/16 (Thu) 11:10
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I also think that one day Japan should allow dual citizenship.

＞ Consulates are trying hard to take away Japanese citizenship

but this ↑ is different ～. Consulate officials don't make the laws. They are simply doing what they are told by the MOFA
to do. And that's what consulates are supposed to do.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/06/17 (Fri) 08:34
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＞ Consulate officials don't make the laws. They are simply doing what they are told by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs


That is correct. But one of the things they are doing in a casual manner is probably the need to enforce

Japanese law on those living abroad who are violating Japanese law.

• 当選者
• 2022/06/18 (Sat) 17:43
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Den-desu-san
If you have two passports, just use your Japanese passport and go back to your country. You are all snickering about dual citizenship. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and consulates will only try to take away your nationality in cases where you took it later with citizenship.
Why not just use your remaining passport differently? You can't renew it next time.
After that, renunciation of nationality is on an individual basis.
On the other hand, Naomi Osaka's case became a hot topic. It has solved the concerns of many dual nationals and their parents who have both American and Japanese citizenship.
Naomi Osaka declared her "choice of Japanese nationality" by the time she reached the age of 22, so her dual nationality is now officially recognized. This is because she is working to renounce her foreign nationality indefinitely.

By declaring her selection of Japanese nationality, ， she has fulfilled her obligation to select nationality under Article 14, Paragraph 1 of the Nationality Law ， but ， whether she naturally loses her foreign nationality by this declaration of selection depends on the system of that foreign country. For those who have the nationality of a foreign country whose legislation does not allow for the loss of nationality upon this declaration of choice, ， after this declaration of choice ， they must strive to renounce that foreign nationality （ ） Article 16, paragraph 1 of the Nationality Act .

In the U.S., since multiple nationalities are allowed, one only has to "make efforts to renounce" and can stay as a dual national if left alone.　Incidentally, the consulate has no right to refuse to issue a Japanese passport to a person who is in the process of declaring his/her choice. You can renew your passport for the rest of your life while you are in the process of making your choice.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/06/19 (Sun) 06:50
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#Because the next time you can't renew it.
If you can't renew your Japanese passport in the US,
you will go to Japan to renew it.

Even if you choose only good Japanese and US laws

＃ the consulate has no right to refuse to issue a Japanese passport to someone who is declaring his/her choice.
You can renew your Japanese passport because you still have your Glynn card.

Once you attend and complete the swearing-in ceremony, return your Glynn card and receive your Certificate, you are now a US citizen.
If you renew your Japanese passport in the U.S.,
you will not be able to renew it because you will need a valid visa proof for your stay.

• 偽装日本人を否定
• 2022/06/29 (Wed) 10:55
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You mean you are a legal dual citizen.
You can't just show both passports, Japanese and American ？.

• gachann
• 2022/07/02 (Sat) 09:42
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What Toby here is talking about is a crime, and even if you could, you shouldn't....　The country of Japan does not recognize dual citizenship, so when you acquire American citizenship, you " automatically lose your Japanese citizenship already".　Therefore, entering Japan with that passport is a crime of forgery.　It is the same level as entering Japan with someone else's passport.　And the same crime is different in severity between an ignorant crime and a deliberate crime.　Note that these days entry and exit from Japan is computerized, so there is a possibility that your history will be kept.　Personally, I think it is too risky because the Japanese government does not give citizenship to criminals when they want to become naturalized in Japan in the future.

• ボケ
• 2022/07/02 (Sat) 10:29
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You can only go back to Japan with a Japanese passport, so why don't you just use a Japanese passport instead of whining about it
If you think that's a risk, don't go back now
At this point you may get lucky, and who knows what will happen?

• でんです
• 2022/07/11 (Mon) 15:53
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I have just returned to Japan, so here is a post-mortem report. I bought my ticket the same way I did before the Corona disaster, i.e., with an American passport, and then I could enter and leave the U.S. with my American passport and enter and leave Japan with my Japanese passport. In the past, I have been asked to show both passports at the check-in counter, but this time I showed only my Japanese passport at the American check-in counter and only my American passport at the Japanese check-in counter. Maybe the passport information at the time of passport purchase and the passport shown at the check-in counter do not have to match. I thought that perhaps as long as the names matched, it would be fine. As an aside, entering Japan was really simplified! It was like it took 15 minutes from the time the plane arrived to the time we left the airport. Coming back to the US is almost like a coronary disaster. The number of infected people in Japan is increasing, but I felt that the world is slowly returning to normal. However, in Japan, masks were worn almost 100% of the time, even outdoors. On the other hand, in izakaya (Japanese style pubs), people ate, drank and chatted without masks in super close proximity. I was a bit tempted to ask myself if it is possible to get infected at an izakaya.

• でんです
• 2022/07/11 (Mon) 15:55
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↑ Correction. It is "almost the same as before the corona disaster", not "almost the same as before the corona disaster."

• もうすぐ帰国
• 2022/07/11 (Mon) 16:14
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↑ details helped
thank you😊

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/07/11 (Mon) 16:45
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Don't think that because someone else was able to do it, you can do it without problems.

• 万金丹
• 2022/07/11 (Mon) 17:47
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＞ #58Den's

What airport did you enter Japan from ？ ！ I am not sure if I should go to Haneda Airport or Narita Airport 。。。。。

• ボケ
• 2022/07/11 (Mon) 18:19
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#58 This is Den

I can buy a plane ticket with an American passport, even though I don't have a visa.　
they usually don't let you on the plane if you can't enter Japan
it's a rule that they don't let you back on the plane if you can't enter Japan it kinda smells like a lie

• でんです
• 2022/07/12 (Tue) 02:03
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#62 Mr. Manikintan,

I entered and left Narita airport.

#65 Mr. Bokeh,

I can buy a ticket with my American passport; at the check-in counter at LAX, I showed my Japanese passport to get a boarding pass. ？ I think the person at the check-in counter knew I was buying a ticket with an American passport, but as soon as I showed him my Japanese passport, he issued me a boarding pass. Of course, I also had a fast track, so I prepared that with my Japanese passport and showed the blue color of my application at the check-in counter. But this is not really relevant to you, is it? My apologies.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/07/12 (Tue) 06:31
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You should not willingly violate the law.

• 無知
• 2022/07/12 (Tue) 09:20
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Whenever I arrange a ticket, I always enter my passport number and visa status.
You mean they will let me issue a ticket and board the plane even if I give a different ID at the LAX counter?
I wonder how they check if the ticket buyer and the passenger are the same person ？ If they are different people, there could be a terrorist attack.

• たった
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• 2022/12/19 (Mon) 00:29
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Japan is a spy paradise.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/12/20 (Tue) 10:13
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How can I leave the US and come back from Japan?

If I present my American passport at the check-in counter at the airport in Japan,
it may look suspicious because there is no entry record.

And vice versa, if I present my Japanese passport and it is not stamped with a visa for entry into the U.S.,
they may ask, "You don't have a visa for entry into the U.S.