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駐在員
- #1
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- 聞いてよー!!!
- 2006/09/10 19:07
この前、友人とコリアンレストランに行った時の事ですが、私達のテーブルの後ろに日本人の団体(6人位いました)が陣取っていました。彼らは格好、話していた内容からして間違いなく日本からの駐在員(年は30代後半〜40代だったと思います)だったのですが、彼らの話しの内容には本当に頭にきました。駐在員はアメリカの日系社会の中でも一番ステータスが高いみたいな事を偉そうに話していました。また、現地採用の人間、学生の事をまるで格下の人間として話していました。現地採用の人達や学生の事をあいつら呼ばわりしていました。人の事を思いっきり馬鹿にしていたわりには
英語は滅茶苦茶下手でした。注文すらろくに出来ていませんでしたから。
皆さんに質問です。駐在員てそんなに偉かったり凄かったりするんですか?
- #32
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- 異議あり!
- 2006/09/13 (Wed) 10:21
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何と無く意見の近い人もチラホラいらっしゃるようなので少し調子に乗ってトピズレして宜しいですか?
(って・・・・すでにズレる気満々ですが。。。。笑)
駐在員とか現地採用とかいう枠ではなくて、アメリカで働く一人の管理職として愚痴をこぼしたいことがあります。
うちの会社は日本人は一人なので、相手は当然アメリカ人ですが、私の口癖がこんな言葉です。
Human error is inevitable.
Everybody does.
I do too.
There's no doubt about it.
But the thing is, whenever you make a mistake, first thing you've got to do is to admit it and we are ready to talk.
Don't get too nervous or defensive, I'm not gonna kill you dear.
When you get in a defensive mode spiting whole bunch of excuses and pinning down on somebody else's face, we never get ready to talk.
You are creating or inviting an arguement instead, you know what I'm saying?
一度や二度なら良いですが、同じ部下に何度もこんなことを言う時にはホントに凹みますし、腹が立ちます。
それから責任区分や仕事の範囲を規定したマニュアルやJob Descriptionがお粗末だという社員には、こう言ったこともあります。
Okay, I can write up hunderds of pages of manuals.
But you know what?
I bet you, you're gonna come back to my office next week telling me, "Hey, the manual doesn't tell me how to deal with this kind of case."
I will then, go like "okay, I can add 10 more pages...."
You will come back again in a couple of weeks and say, "You know, this doesn't cover whole thing. I don't know what to do with the case."
I will then, again, go "okay, I can add 20 more pages...."
Even thousands of pages of manual can't cover whole thing.
I knew in the first place that it's not gonna help us whole a lot.
Use your common sense and obey the very basic standard.
I can train you some techniques and skills for your work but I can't teach you what the common sense is.
No common sense?
I really hate to tell you this but... that's your problem.
堪え性の無い上司(管理職)かも知れません。
でも良い顔ばかりはしていられないですよね。
と、思うんですけど・・・・・。
- #33
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- 駐在員A
- 2006/09/13 (Wed) 12:01
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駐在員否定派のみなさんの意見をうかがいたいですね。
異議あり!さんの英語が下手と言えるのか?
異議あり!さんは仕事が出来ないと言えるのか?
ご自分は異議あり!さんより優秀だと言い切る自信があるのか?
同じ駐在員として、こういう駐在員の人たちもたくさんいることを知っていただきたいです。
駐在員=チキンで自分勝手で仕事の出来ない英語の下手なダメなヤツという図式はまちがいですよ。
- #34
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- nextichiro
- 2006/09/13 (Wed) 13:54
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書き込みの時間を見ると、とても仕事熱心じゃ無さそうですね。
仕事暇なんすか?と言うより仕事してます?#33さん早くランチ取らないと、他の人の迷惑ですよ。
- #35
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異議あり!=駐在員A ですか。お疲れさんです。
>異議あり!さんの英語が下手と言えるのか?
下手かどうかは実際に話しているのを聞かないとわかりませんけど、文法の間違いが多いですよ。駐在員Aさんがアメリカの4大を出ていないのははっきりわかります。English101でこういう間違いの多い英語を使うと大きく減点されますからね。C+程度でしょう。
>異議あり!さんは仕事が出来ないと言えるのか?
はぁ?
>ご自分は異議あり!さんより優秀だと言い切る自信があるのか?
え?
>同じ駐在員として、こういう駐在員の人たちもたくさんいることを知っていただきたいです。
それは「たくさんいる」の根拠をまず示して下さい。話しはそれからです。
- #36
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- 駐在員A
- 2006/09/13 (Wed) 15:40
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都合が悪くなると自演騒ぎで話のすり替えですか。
まるで2ちゃんみたいですね。
じゃああなたの素晴らしい英語力で添削して下さいな。
あなたなら、同じような状況で部下にどんな言い回しをしますか?
僕は英語は異議あり!さんほど得意な方ではないんで揚げ足とられる前に止めときます。
あなたはずいぶんと自信がおありのようなので是非教えてください。
できれば全部英語で書き込んでくれたりすると勉強になります。
ここまで立派なこと言ってて今さら無理なんていわないですよね?
それとも
やっぱり無理なんですか?
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