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Berry ・ Berry ・ Carefull Great Flame

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#1
  • ベリーさん
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  • 2021/08/19 07:12

I have no idea what the problem is. Please tell me who is good at English.

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#2
  • 差別に敏感
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 07:21
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How would you feel if a Japanese baseball commentator explained to a Chinese player in Japanese with a Chinese accent ？?

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#3
  • 確かに
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 08:46
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I went to watch the video, and I did wonder if it was really that much of a big deal ？.
One person mentioned in the comments section that he is from New Jersey and gets made fun of for his Jersey accent a lot, but I really don't think that's the extent of it. It was just broadcast, so it was certainly not desirable and should have been noted, but Indefinite suspension is a bit excessive.

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#4
  • 馬鹿にしてるからダメ
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 09:20
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I was often mocked by my American friends in college for speaking English with an Asian accent, and it wasn't pleasant. It's not so disgusting when it's done by people of the same race.
There were usually people who would pull their fingers across the outside of their eyes and squint while they made fun of me in Asian accented English. Young urbanites today wouldn't do that.
Times have changed.

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#5
  • 倍金萬
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 09:51
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On July 6, 2013, a Asiana Airlines B777 failed to land at San Francisco International Airport, killing three people, and on the news, a commentator on a local SF TV station made fun of the Asiana Airlines pilots and pronounced their names like this.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/asiana-pilots-fake-names-racist_n_3588569

I thought it was terrible that a TV commentator, even on a local station, would pronounce them this way. This fact was broadcast on television all over the United States. Compared to this, Mr. Morris's bad joke seems to me to be a minor one.

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#6
  • ＴＰＯ
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 09:57
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There are some things that are not right to say, depending on the occasion.
Comedians are allowed to say whatever they want, though.

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#7
  • 倍金萬
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 10:02
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This female commentator, well, pronounced the Korean name correctly in English, but

the SF TV commentator seems to have replaced it with a Moro word over there.

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#8
  • アジア人
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 10:19
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I saw an article related to that, Morris replied: "Be very, very careful," but in an apparent tone that has long been used to mock English-speaking Asians.
"Be very, very careful," but in an apparent tone that has long been used to mock English-speaking Asians. I hear that discrimination in baseball is terrible. Among non-Asians, people make fun of Asians' native languages with expressions such as "Ching Chong Chang"(this seems to have started because Chinese sounds that way, but the target is Asians, not Chinese), "Me Love You ), "Me Love You", etc., to imitate Broken English and disparage Asians. The problem with this comment is that he dared to imitate common phrases used by Asians. He grew up hearing his parents say "Jap," so perhaps he does not feel discriminated when he imitates them, but he admits that it was not a good comment. I hope that now that he is on Indefinite Suspension, other people will stop making comments that incite discrimination.

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#9
  • 時代ですね
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 10:42
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Older people are less discriminating in both Japan and the U.S.

Times have changed

But there are so many things we shouldn't do nowadays that it's suffocating

I'm an araholic, but I'm not that angry with you but you apologize, and the world I think there needs to be a certain amount of open-mindedness to forgive mistakes.

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#10
  • 時代ですね
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 10:45
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Even Japanese people often imitate the way foreigners speak, but that is also not the case nowadays ？.

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#11
  • グローバル化の基本
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 11:05
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NG would be.
You may be able to forgive, but the majority of people in the world would not. As 8 wrote, parents of this generation usually talked about racist terms Japs and blacks, so they must have been less conscious. As the population of this age group is gradually decreasing in life expectancy and the younger generation of mixed race is becoming the majority in the world, it is necessary to change the consciousness.

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#12
  • ものまねタレントニダ
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 11:50
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What about the talent impersonating the same singers and entertainers ？
viewers are laughing out loud in front of the TV
Booooooooo!

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#13
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  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 12:12
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↑ That Nida is racist too.

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#14
  • ものまねタレントニダ
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 12:48
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↑ What are you doing, Nida Nida ？?

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#15
  • カムサムニダ
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 13:01
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Using the last two letters of kamsum nida is racist ？.

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#16
  • 在米25年
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 13:26
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After a certain point, I understood that America is a country that includes discrimination.
From the American point of view, both Japanese companies and Japanese people came here on their own, so if you don't like discrimination, don't come to America.

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#17
  • ベリーさん
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 18:46
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Topic. Sorry, my question was not about racism, but about pronunciation.
You say it's a Japanese accent, but what's wrong with it? The "r" sounds like a curly tongue, but that is not the same as a Japanese accent.

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#18
  • バカですか？
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 20:06
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Do you have any Native friends or acquaintances ？
How about asking a Japanese person about English pronunciation?

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#19
  • ベリー・ベリー
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 20:26
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Beriberi is not an American pronunciation.

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#20
  • ってか
  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 21:38
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There ？.

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#21
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  • 2021/08/19 (Thu) 23:20
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That's where it was 🙄.

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#22
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  • 2021/08/20 (Fri) 13:04
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#17 Mr. Berry

I googled it and got this

comparative superlative
careful more careful most careful

well you don't say Very
I guess you Americans don't know what Asian English is ？ I don't say "very careful" very often.

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#24
  • ベリーさん
  • 2021/08/21 (Sat) 07:26
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#18 Are you an idiot ？ Mr.
Topic. Sorry, I live in Japan and don't know anyone who speaks English.
You say that my pronunciation is strange, but what exactly is strange about it? I know this is a very rude request, but if you could explain it to me, I would be very grateful.
Thank you very much.

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#25
  • がんば
  • 2021/08/21 (Sat) 07:40
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I need to learn more English.

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#26
  • berries and cream
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  • 2021/08/22 (Sun) 07:06
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① That the "v" in very was pronounced as "be" in Japanese and the "r" was pronounced as "ri" in Japanese.

② The repetition of "very very" twice briefly. （ A typical Asian trait. ）

Japanese （ Asians ） are not good at pronouncing "v" and "r", so that they intentionally said it in Japanese pronunciation as "beriberi" instead of "very".

Many Americans who have seen this kind of racial staging in movies and TV dramas that emphasize Asians found it to be a derogatory expression for Asians, and it caused a firestorm in today's race-conscious America, and Mr. Morris was suspended.

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#27

#26
I see. I'll be careful about pronunciation ！ ！
By the way, that Mr. Morris, do Japanese say "beriberi careful" ？ for people living in the US,
but even I, when I need attention, say "Be Careful " or simply
say "CAREFUL" strongly.
Beriberi sounds like something a kindergartener ？ would say, and I feel like a fool.

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#28
  • おせーて
  • 2021/08/22 (Sun) 18:32
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↑ Tetsuro Degawa uses it a lot

Very Very Good

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#29
  • ベリーさん
  • 2021/08/22 (Sun) 19:19
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Thank you #26. So that's how it is.
In this case, most Japanese were in ？ ？ ？ state. Since they don't notice the difference of "v" and "r" at all, they shouldn't be able to communicate with each other.
As for me, it is really shameful that I am educated in katakana English, which I cannot communicate with. I am good at grammar and vocabulary and my test scores are always good.

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#30
  • 唯一の楽しみ
  • 2021/08/22 (Sun) 20:20
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He's doing great

I support him every day!

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#31
  • あっぱれ
  • 2021/08/22 (Sun) 22:58
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#26

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#32

Omg 😳
I just heard at English TV Shaw (KCET)
Lady baker said "very very good flavor !" To someone's
baked cake.👍 so maybe it's ok to use 🤔

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#33
  • 担々麺
  • 2021/08/23 (Mon) 01:39
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I have met people who say "very bad" but I thought eh.

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