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Citizenship Application

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#1
  • 市民権申請
  • mail
  • 2024/07/01 18:38

Has anyone applied for citizenship this year ? If anyone would be so kind, I would be very, very grateful if you could contact me with a few questions.
Thank you very much.
YURI

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#2
  • dobon
  • 2024/07/02 (Tue) 07:12
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Using a lawyer is a lot of work, but handling it yourself is easy, quick, and inexpensive, so
I highly recommend it.
I felt sad when I renounced my Japanese nationality, but I will never forget how grateful I am to be a former Japanese citizen.

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#4
  • ボケのおとっさん         .
  • 2024/07/02 (Tue) 15:18
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2 I think it's the other way around ?
It's hard to do it yourself, but with a lawyer it's easy.

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#7
  • 市民権
  • 2024/07/03 (Wed) 12:47
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If there are no problems with the application, I don't think you need a lawyer. If there is something to be worried about, I would consult a lawyer.
If you are worried about your English, an agent, not a lawyer, will suffice. It is looser than green card.

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#9
  • College
  • 2024/07/04 (Thu) 00:26
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The content itself is at the same level as a basic driver's license application
If you understand the GC process and have a US university degree, you can do it yourself
Even if you use a law firm, the actual difference will be handled by a barrister

I am an engineer, not a law specialist.
I'm an engineer, not a lawyer I've retained a professional immigration lawyer twice for H1B
but the documents were too sloppy
I applied for GC by myself

I saved $10,000 in lawyer fees
I'm not a lawyer for GC to Citizen I'm a lawyer for GC to Citizen. No particular reason to fail ( unless you have an arrest record ) Self will not be a problem
5 , If you want to spend 6,000 and still ask for help, that is an option

After getting Citizen,
you only need to make efforts to renounce your Japanese nationality ( you know what I mean ~ )

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#12
  • 紅夜叉         .
  • 2024/07/04 (Thu) 23:35
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There would be no need to make an effort to renounce Japanese nationality after obtaining Citizen. It would disappear on its own.

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#14
  • ボケのおとっつあん .
  • 2024/07/05 (Fri) 07:56
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GC, I've seen people do their citizenship by themselves and have to redo their documents because they didn't have enough, so I hired a professional and got it done in one shot
By the way, ⒌,000 for citizenship is a rip-off
What the hell is $10,000 for a lawyer ? Did you have to be in the country illegally or something to qualify for this? You didn't meet the requirements for illegal immigration or something ??

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#15
  • コピペくん
  • 2024/07/05 (Fri) 08:11
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Nationality Act Article 11 A Japanese citizen shall lose Japanese nationality if he/she acquires the nationality of a foreign country at his/her own volition.

Nationality Act Article 20 In cases where notification is made pursuant to the provisions of Article 3, paragraph (1), a person making a false notification shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not more than one year or a fine of not more than two hundred thousand yen.

Article 18 of the Passport Act A passport shall cease to be valid if it falls under any of the following items.
(i) If the holder of the passport dies or loses Japanese nationality.

Article 23 of the Passport Act Any person who falls under any of the following items shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not more than five years or a fine of not more than three million yen, or both.
(i) Any person who has obtained a passport or travel document pertaining to an application or request under this Act by making a false statement in a document concerning such application or request or by any other wrongful act
(vii) Any person who has exercised a passport or travel document which has lost its validity

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#17
  • 努力
  • 2024/07/05 (Fri) 14:14
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Obligation to make efforts Japanese government untraceable

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#27
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2024/07/10 (Wed) 09:06
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Even if you are very, very old in the U.S., your pension will be stopped if you do not provide proof of survival once a year.

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#28
  • これが常識
  • 2024/07/10 (Wed) 13:05
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From the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
When there is a change in the status of a Japanese national abroad, such as birth, marriage, or death, or when there is a change in nationality due to naturalization abroad, even if the person concerned or the notifier is abroad, "notification is obligatory" under Japan's Family Registration Law "and all such changes are to be entered in the family register.

From the Ministry of Justice
Notification of renunciation of nationality
Article 13, Paragraph 1 of the Nationality Law
Prepare a notification form and submit it with the attached documents to the Legal Affairs Bureau, District Legal Affairs Bureau or Japanese embassy ・ consulate in a foreign country ( See Where to Submit ). If the person seeking to renounce Japanese nationality is 15 years of age or older, the person must appear in person; if the person is under 15 years of age, a legal representative, such as a person with parental authority or a guardian, must appear in person.

24 I told you to notify me, what are you talking about ?.

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#30
  • College
  • 2024/07/10 (Wed) 16:10
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RE: #14
I'm not sure since I only paid for a lawyer from Platree to H1B, but I believe it's less than 10,000 ?
1 ~ 20k from H1B to GC ?
citizenship fee is just a prediction
1 , 2k If you can do it, you might want to get a lawyer to do it for you.

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#30
  • College
  • 2024/07/10 (Wed) 16:20
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Nobel Prize and all
I think it is the stupidest action against the national interest
to try to get a good pure Japanese who left Japan and is working abroad to submit
papers for renunciation of Japanese nationality due to taking US and other nationalities

Hey Consulate ?

A good example is Otani
If he signs a long-term contract in the US and gets permanent residency or even citizenship
will you deprive him of his Japanese citizenship

I will be disappointed if he becomes an American

If the Japanese government continues to act without considering such things

the country will fall further and further

It is one idea to make a special exception to allow dual citizenship for pure Japanese, and a good policy while protecting the country can be made ?
Korea seems to have allowed dual nationality

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#33
  • ボケのおとっつあん .
  • 2024/07/10 (Wed) 18:00
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I wonder if Mr. Otani pays taxes in Japan ?
If he doesn't, if something happens to him, he'll have to be protected by Japanese taxpayers.

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#37
  • College
  • 2024/07/11 (Thu) 03:43
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I'm sure that you are trying hard but can't submit it. I am sure that you are making an effort but cannot submit it ~ because your Japanese is weak.

I guess you just have to keep trying to deliver it.

If you are going to pretend equality under the law, why do some have dual citizenship publicly?
I don't know if you are 18 or 21, but forcing people to make a choice based on their age is also discrimination based on age
There are restrictions on drinking and smoking based on age, insurance rates for the elderly change based on age, and tax rates change based on income, all of which are discrimination ?

In addition, there is a discrimination against those who are born in Japan. 966> Incidentally, there is a rumor that people who were born in Japan and have a family register
can easily apply for naturalization again
even if they renounce their Japanese citizenship

the government should think about what is most beneficial for Japan and amend the law

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#47
  • ボケのおとっつあん .
  • 2024/07/11 (Thu) 16:22
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Hawaii, Florida, and several other states have no smog check requirement
There's nothing wrong with driving a car that doesn't pass a smog check, California is just too loud.

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#74

#30 <分かりやすい例が、大谷選手 アメリカで長期契約、もし彼がアメリカ気に入って永住権、市民権迄取得したら 日本国籍のはく奪するのでしょうか

The Ministry of Justice does not deprive a person of nationality.
jIf you do not renounce one of your nationalities, you will remain in dual nationality status, and Japan considers this a violation of the Nationality Law.
But even so, it is as if they do not charge you with a crime unless there is something special about you.
There are people who have dual citizenship with the U.S. who travel back and forth between the U.S. and Japan.
Renho is also reported to have had dual citizenship of Japan and Taiwan for over 30 years.

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#79
  • 新聞によりますと
  • 2024/07/20 (Sat) 16:38
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NHK News

In a trial that disputed whether or not the provisions of the Nationality Law that allow dual nationality and the loss of Japanese nationality when a person acquires the nationality of a foreign country of his/her own choice violates the Constitution, the Supreme Court rejected the appeal of the plaintiffs and ruled that the law "does not violate the Constitution" by the second day. The Supreme Court rejected the plaintiff's appeal and ruled that the law "does not violate the Constitution. The Japanese Nationality Law stipulates that if a person acquires a foreign nationality at his/her own request, he/she loses Japanese nationality, and dual nationality is not allowed. https: //www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20231002/k10014213301000.html


Asahi Shimbun Digital

Yuri Kondo ( 76 ), an Arizona attorney and resident of Fukuoka Prefecture, filed a lawsuit against the Japanese government, claiming that the provision of the Nationality Law that states a foreign national automatically loses Japanese nationality when he or she acquires foreign nationality is unconstitutional. On April 6, the Fukuoka District Court ruled in the case. Judge Fumitaka Hayashi dismissed the lawsuit, ruling that the lawsuit was constitutional. Kondo became a U.S. citizen in 2004 and was denied a passport in 2005 on the grounds that he was not a Japanese citizen. https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASRD65R1DRD6TIPE00Q.html


The Yomiuri Shimbun Online

Yuri Kondo ( 76 ), an Arizona attorney from Itoshima, Fukuoka Prefecture, who has acquired U.S. citizenship, has filed a lawsuit against the government, claiming that the provision of the Nationality Law that states that a person who voluntarily acquires foreign citizenship loses Japanese citizenship violates the Constitution. On April 6, the Fukuoka District Court ruled in a lawsuit filed by Yuri Kondo 76 , an Arizona attorney in Itoshima City, Fukuoka Prefecture, seeking confirmation of her Japanese citizenship. Judge Fumitaka Hayashi ruled that the provision was constitutional and dismissed the plaintiffs' claim. Ms. Kondo was born in Kanagawa Prefecture, acquired U.S. citizenship around 2004, and lost her Japanese citizenship. In the trial, he had argued that "the provision that allows a person to mechanically lose ( Japanese ) nationality upon acquiring foreign nationality violates the right to self-determination and other rights provided for in Article 13 of the Constitution." https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/local/kyushu/news/20231207- OYTNT50064/


Asahi Shimbun Digital

The Tokyo District Court ruled in a lawsuit filed by eight people living abroad who demanded the government confirm that they maintain their Japanese nationality, claiming that the provision of the Nationality Law that allows a person to lose Japanese nationality upon acquiring foreign citizenship violates the Constitution. On March 21, Judge Hideaki Mori ) of the Tokyo District Court ( ruled that the lawsuit was constitutional and dismissed the lawsuit. This is believed to be the first time a constitutional decision has been made on this provision. The point of contention was the unconstitutionality of Article 11, paragraph 1 of the Nationality Law, which states, "A Japanese citizen loses his/her Japanese nationality if he/she acquires a foreign nationality at his/her own will. https: //www.asahi.com/articles/ASP1P3FM0P1PUTIL003.html

Yomiuri Shimbun Online

On the 21st, the Tokyo District Court ruled in a lawsuit filed by eight men and women residing in Switzerland and other foreign countries against the government, demanding confirmation of their Japanese nationality, claiming that the provision of Article 11 of the Nationality Law, which stipulates that a person loses Japanese nationality if he/she acquires foreign nationality at his/her own request, violates the Constitution. Judge Hideaki Mori stated, "The Constitution is in line with the law. Judge Hideaki Mori ruled that the law was "constitutional" and rejected the plaintiffs' claims. The ruling noted that "the Constitution guarantees the freedom of renouncing one's nationality, but it does not stipulate anything about holding on to one's nationality. The court concluded that this provision, which aims to avoid multiple nationalities (and multiple obligations of citizenship )such as paying taxes, is "a reasonable principle to try to prevent ・and eliminate as much as possible multiple nationalities. https: //www .yomiuri.co.jp/en/en/en/html .yomiuri.co.jp/national/20210121-OYT1T50207/


Sankei Shimbun

Eight men and women, including a European resident, have filed a lawsuit against the Japanese government for maintaining their Japanese nationality, claiming that the provision of the Nationality Law that states a foreign national loses Japanese nationality if they acquire it violates the Constitution. The plaintiffs, eight men and women residing in Europe, demanded that the government maintain their Japanese nationality, claiming that the provision of the Nationality Law that states that a person loses Japanese nationality upon acquiring foreign nationality violates the Constitution. The plaintiffs argued that the lawsuit violated the Constitution, which guarantees the freedom to withdraw from Japanese nationality, but the judge pointed out that the Constitution only prohibits the state from preventing them from withdrawing from Japanese nationality. The court also ruled that the principle of the Nationality Law preventing multiple nationalities was "reasonable" because multiple nationalities could cause friction between nations and inconsistencies in individual rights and obligations. https://www.sankei.com/article/20210121- 5WTK4FJ5YZOAXLIY4ZM4 CCYDIQ/

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