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- #1
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- roseland
- 2005/05/06 16:57
今、勤めている会社を辞めたいのですが、2 WEEKS NOTICEって、絶対に出さなきゃいけないものなんでしょうか?
カリフォルニアの法律ではいつでも辞めてもいいと聞いたのですが。
- #8
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法律的に見てとか、人間関係は最初から険悪だからとかじゃなくて、いい大人なんだから、良識で物事を考えればいいんじゃないですか?
会社から見れば1ヶ月前でも、職種によっては引継ぎできないものもあるだろうし、個人で引継ぎができて、他の人が困らないようにして退社するのがモラルではないかと。
#3に賛成だし、むしろそれが普通の感覚ですよ。事情はあるのかもしれないけど、社会人だからこそ、法律守ってさえいればいいってのではなくて、常識の範囲で判断したほうが言いと思います。
その分、その人自身の人格と良識をうたがわれますからね。嫌な仕事だったとしても、お金をもらってたわけだし。
- #7
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if you are hired AT WILL you can quit anytime. at the same time they can fire you anytime too. unless otherwise noted, at will means anytime
- #6
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絶対に出さなければいけないものではありません。そういうやめ方は普通ではありませんが もう二度と帰ってきたくないのなら ”もう明日から来ないよ”で止めても 法的にはどうってこともないです。
昔一緒に働いた人で 会社の前のカーブサイドを走り抜けすがりに 車の中から ユニフォームを投げ込んで止めていった人がいた。
- #9
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- roseland
- 2005/05/10 (Tue) 12:35
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色々勉強になりました。
通知を出さなくても、出しても、相当困るというのは分かるんですよ。引継ぎは事情により出来ないですから。
ただ思うのは、#7さんも書いてますけど、雇われる側としてはいつクビになっても文句言えないわけだし、そういういみではGive and Takeじゃないのかと。あと、早くの次の仕事に就きたいので2週間も待ってられないというのはありました。
でも、穏便に通知は出す事にします。
- #10
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- 七誌
- 2005/05/11 (Wed) 02:45
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roselandさん、円満退社へ向けて頑張ってください。経営者として、でなく、1人の人間として、辞める側にも精神的な負荷がかかることを念頭において、1人の人間の新しい一歩を応援してゆきたいですね。私自身の辞職でも色々ありましたし…ね。
…個人的な見解ですが、「Give and Take」なだけでないような気がいたします。企業というシステムは、株主や顧客を幸せにするだけでなく、全従業員および御家族の生活にも責任を負っていると考えています。確かに個人にとってクビになるリスクは、その方およびそのご家族のみへの影響なのですが、その逆方向への影響面は、経営者や株主、顧客のみならず、全従業員の生活までも…。
…なんて意見を持つ経営者の方もいらっしゃるでしょう。しかし、企業として、人のTurnoverのリスクへ普段から準備しておくことこそ、株主や顧客、従業員+ご家族への責任であり、その不備、という経営の怠慢を、上記のようなロジックで延々と述べてくるのは無責任と言わざるを得ませんね。…なんて言っている私も気をつけねば…。…と書き込んでいる場合でもないので、「数字とにらめっこ」に戻ります(笑)ではでは。
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