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About Infertility Treatment

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#1
  • sakura
  • mail
  • 2021/10/13 14:13

I am currently considering starting fertility treatment. If I were to have IVF, my insurance would not cover infertility treatment, so I thought I would return to Japan and have the tests done here, but my husband told me that if the tests are cheaper in Japan, I should return to Japan and have the tests done here. I thought that would be better, but I do not know exactly how much it would cost to have the test done here. I was wondering if anyone who has had infertility testing done here without insurance coverage could tell me the approximate cost of each test.

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#2
  • 八年近く前
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 15:41
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Basic counseling and testing was $ about 600, but insurance covered most of it.
It's a place called Life IVF.
I was in my late 20s, but it may vary from person to person.

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#3
  • コウノトリ希望
  • mail
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 19:13
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Without insurance it cost
sperm test $ 250
blood test&ultrasound $ 300

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#5
  • 泣かなくても
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 19:35
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↑ I'm not sure if your husband really said those words, because I just wrote a summary of the main points for Topi's clarity.

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#7
  • 種牡馬
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 20:32
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I'll help you with breeding as much as you want.
After all, he's as good as a horse.

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#8
  • 不妊治療経験者
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 21:49
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If you are going to have fertility treatment in Japan, it is better to have it done in Japan. It depends on the tests, but even if you have the tests done here, you will have to go back for more tests after a few months, so it would be a waste of time and money.

Basically, the fertility treatment starts with a consultation, and after all the tests are done, the fertility treatment will begin according to the situation, so it will not start with us asking for this test or that test.

We explain the current situation and discuss with the doctor where to start. Depending on the doctor, they will not do IVF all at once. If you strongly wish, IVF can be done all at once.

Japan's birthrate is declining and it is said that there is government assistance for infertility treatment, so if you and your husband are Japanese, I think it would be better to return to Japan for treatment as soon as possible.

Depending on the age of the couple, even one month of infertility treatment cannot be wasted. Above all, your husband's support is the most important. Please work hard together as a couple.

Infertility treatment is more stressful than expected, so it is better to proceed without talking too much about it to those around you, so that you can relax even if things don't go well. The most stressful thing for me was that people around me were curious and asked me this and that whenever I met them. The longer the treatment goes on, the more stressful it is and the more the bill mounts. I even stopped seeing a friend who insensitively asked me this and that every time I saw her, even though I told her I would report back when it was done.

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#9
  • tax man
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 22:05
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Please refer to the following example of a client
filing a tax return this year regarding the cost of infertility treatment.
Although there may be differences between male and female clients,
basically, the expenses are deductible for income tax purposes.

Please refer to the following example of this man.
artificial insemination ( This man is single and paid a gratuity to an egg donor ) who underwent medical procedures
including sperm retrieval, freezing, ovulation, egg retrieval, embryo creation, and embryo freezing, for a total cost of $45,000. The expenses totaled $45,000, which were reported as Itemized Deduction
on the tax return, and were all deductible.
The procedure was performed at a Fertility Clinic in Southern California.

Any cost to you for the treatment of a medical condition, including most physician visits, medications, and medical procedures. Artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization (IVF), and the temporary storage of eggs and/or sperm are deductible medical expenses.

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#10
  • 不妊治療経験者
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 22:19
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↑ Eh ?

If the man were single, he would also need a surrogate, so $40,000 would not cover it. It would only be for the egg donor fee. ? Fertility treatment seems to be a lot cheaper in other states, too. Everything is crazy expensive in California.

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#12
  • tax man
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 22:35
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I will contact you with an addendum.

This man has paid
16,000 in gratuities to an egg donor $ in addition to the $45,000 and asked if he could
also deduct

the gratuity to a non-family member, as follows.
explained that it is not deductible.

What Cannot Be Deducted:
• Surrogate compensation
• Surrogate medical bills
• Surrogate medical insurance
• Anything not directly related to your family

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#13
  • 不妊治療経験者
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 22:51
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You should leave the money to your husband and concentrate on your fertility, the most stressful thing is that even if you don't have a baby, you will still receive bills every time.

Let your husband carry all that stress and you can relax and concentrate on your treatment.
I think you are very lucky to be married to someone who is willing to work with you on fertility treatment. There are many men I know who do not want to have children. I think it is a big deal for a woman to have children or not, and I am grateful for a husband who understands that and is willing to walk in the same direction.

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#14
  • sakura
  • 2021/10/13 (Wed) 23:48
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Thank you all for sharing the information so quickly. The cost of the test is not as expensive as I thought. I am 36 years old now and there is no grace period due to my age, so I would like to return to Japan immediately to do IVF, but since my husband is American and has a job, I think we can only stay in Japan as a couple for about 2 weeks. I have no problem staying in Japan for a long period of time, so I am thinking of freezing my husband's sperm and doing IVF. As you said, Mr. Infertility Treatment Experienced, I think it would be better to go to the same hospital for both treatment and testing, but if the quality of my husband's sperm is poor, we will use it for IVF, so I think it would be better to have him tested here at least before he goes to Japan. Not only my husband may have a problem, but I may also have a problem, but since we can stay here for a long period of time, I will be able to continue my treatment until IVF According to an acquaintance who had infertility treatment in Japan, there are instructions such as weight restriction to improve sperm and egg quality. I heard that they were not allowed to have IVF until they cleared the weight limit, etc., in order to improve the quality of the sperm and eggs. I think we will receive guidance from the doctor here as well, and the cost is not that expensive, so I am thinking of having my husband and I go to a hospital here first to see a doctor before returning to Japan. Thank you very much for your encouraging words, Mr. Experienced Fertility Treatment. I am sure that you yourself went through a lot of hardship both physically and mentally during the treatment. I am still more forward in my treatment, but my husband and I share the same desire to have children, and I would like to thank him for that.

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#15
  • 不妊治療経験者
  • 2021/10/14 (Thu) 08:38
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You will never know unless you try.

Even if there are no abnormalities in the tests, there are cases where pregnancy does not occur, so it may be a good idea to consult with a doctor here once. The fertility treatment in the U.S. is much more advanced than in Japan.

My question is,
I understand that even American husbands can receive fertility treatment support in Japan.

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#16
  • 横から失礼いたします
  • 2021/10/14 (Thu) 09:09
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My question is,
Even an American husband can receive fertility treatment support in Japan?

Yes, you can. A friend of mine is in the exact same situation as you, but her husband is American ( and has a high income ).
The American husband is considered to have no income in Japan and was able to receive all the support for infertility treatment.
My friend successfully gave birth to a child in Japan through IVF.
I hope things work out for you, too, Topi.

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#17

I'm sure you are anxious about a lot of things.
I also had IVF with my American husband in CA when I was 36. After waiting 3 months for an appointment at a Japanese hospital, ( we went to a government subsidized hospital ) with a letter of recommendation from my doctor, but we had many problems before the treatment, so we gave up even though the treatment cost was very cheap. The main reason I decided to go to the US was that the pregnancy rate was definitely higher there. I was also told that in Japan, more than two fertilized eggs could not be placed at once. In the U.S., you can do the 4.5 month oil injections at home by yourself. In Japan, you have to go to the hospital. In Japan, we were recommended to do various fertility treatments instead of IVF right away, ( but this process seemed to take more than a year ) I wanted to do IVF right away because of my age, so that was another reason why I chose the US. I think everyone's treatment is different, but if the most important thing is the result of getting pregnant, I feel that the success rate is higher in the US.
Insurance in the U.S. is complicated and basically doesn't cover you, but the medications and other things were covered by insurance.
We are praying for you to have a child.

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#18

I am also currently undergoing fertility treatment. By the way, I am of advanced childbearing age.
I have been trying the timing method and taking fertility drugs for about 5 months, but have not been able to conceive until now.
If I am unable to conceive at the next ovulation timing, I am considering two artificial insemination cycles, and if that doesn't work, two in vitro fertilization cycles.
I was quoted about $1500 per cycle for artificial insemination and $15,000 per cycle for IVF. But it seems to vary depending on age. Of course, this is an amount not covered by insurance.

I am thinking about getting some more estimates from different places, but
I would love to know if you have any recommendations or if you have actually had success here !

Sakura > I am also very interested in the topic. I am also very interested in the topic, so I commented.

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#19

My first daughter was conceived normally, but then I had an ectopic pregnancy and had to have a fallopian tube removed, and another fallopian tube was also blocked, so I could not ovulate and could not conceive for 5 years.
Clomid took 13 eggs, and the first 4 eggs that were fertilized with sperm were placed in the uterus.
The doctors told me it was difficult to get them to stay in the uterus, so from the time I got home until my next doctor's appointment, I spent the entire week in bed with a pillow under my buttocks and my butt elevated except for toileting, showering, and eating. I was very careful not to stand up and walk around, as I was afraid that if I stood up and walked around it would flow. So my husband took care of my 5 year old oldest daughter, prepared meals, did all the laundry, etc.
Three of the four eggs we put in eventually flowed, and only my daughter, who somehow managed to hang on, grew scrupulously, and after three months she was able to go to a regular OB/GYN.
The rest of the eggs were frozen for a year and then discarded.

Actually, IVF allows you to choose the gender.
We had an oldest daughter and wanted a boy, but the doctors forgot and combined the sperm with the egg without separating the sex of the sperm.
I am glad it was a girl because my sisters are very close now.

In my case, I succeeded the first time, but I have a friend who tried so hard she could buy a whole house, but it didn't work and she gave up.
It is very hard mentally.

Husband's cooperation is essential.

I did it 24 years ago in Philadelphia, so I don't remember the cost.
Sorry.

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#20
  • Rie
  • 2021/10/20 (Wed) 22:21
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My grandfather on my mother's side was adopted. But for us grandchildren born 50 years later, it doesn't matter, and the most important thing is not blood or mitochondria, but the memory of having a grandfather and a mother who gave us a happy childhood. Thanks to those warm memories, I will be able to live forever.

So, even if you don't have children, you can still have a warm family, and there are many children who need a kind father and mother.

I hope to become a full-fledged Foster Parent in a few more years (once my daughter is independent). However, the more I learn about Foster Parenting, the more I think I can't adopt every child. I can't keep up with my knowledge of inheritance, and I don't think I can co-mingle my only daughter with the "others". Japanese parents would be surprised. However, I would like to do my best as much as possible until as many children as possible turn 18. It's just a dream for now.

Now that I'm 18, I'd like to say "goodbye ~ and good luck in your own way from now on ~. It is not a relationship of "send me a card for Christmas ~," but an act full of a precious sense of mission that will be passed on to their grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren, so it is not an easy thing to start
.

In the 50s-70s, white families took in many Korean War orphans, and while there may be arguments about religious ego and convenience, I don't think it is something that the average person can easily do. I'm sure everyone here on the board has encountered people who are "of Korean descent but white at heart". Angelina Jolie may be controversial because of her publicity, but I still think it's great that she takes in children whose birth parents were unable to raise them for various reasons and raises them with love and care. Also, she has done a great job of spreading the word that a family can be a respectable one, even though they are of different races. Even if I had her kind of fortune, I ask myself if I would have the capacity to distribute and give that much love, even though we were in our twenties and had our hands full raising a single child.


So, if you and your family are not strongly opposed, please keep in mind the option of domestic or overseas adoption.

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