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Old age in Japan or the U.S. ？.

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#1
  • pooske
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  • 2022/09/22 23:14

End of life, but which is better ？

I've heard that in the U.S. it's hard to have that kind of money, that you need more than $1 million over 10 years to be miserable in a nursing home. So if you move in when you are in your 70s and live to be 90, you would need $2 million.
On the other hand, in Japan, if you have 50 million yen for 10 years, they will take care of you in a decent place. 100 million yen for 20 years.

The current view is to be based in the U.S. until you have some freedom to move around, and then sell to Japan.

The food would be better than the US facility, and since all the kids are back in Japan, they would come to see us once in a while.
What do you all think?

I retired at 55. I will receive a pension from Japan starting next month and from the U.S. next year I will receive a pension from the U.S. I am 61 years old.
90% of my assets are in the US. I have a residence in Japan and live in both.

What are your candid thoughts?

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#2
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/09/23 (Fri) 07:15
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I knew someone who came to the U.S. with his parents and lived there, but the children returned home first
and eventually the husband passed away and lived alone
but the children's permanent residency became invalid because they did not live there
and they decided it was better to return to Japan than to bury their bones in the U.S.
all I knew someone who decided to return to Japan.

The decision to bury one's bones or to return permanently to one's own country depends on one's own feelings.
It is tough to live with a half-hearted feeling.

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#3
  • 団塊
  • 2022/09/23 (Fri) 08:10
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＞ Please let me know your honest thoughts. In my case, I have a spouse, so I am thinking of returning to Japan after one of us takes care of the other here. I am thinking of returning to Japan when the remaining person also needs nursing care. I have heard that nursing care here is expensive and terrible, as you said.

＞ Then, if we move in when we are in our 70s and live until we are 90, we will need $2 million.

It depends on the individual and the nature of the nursing home, but generally speaking, the length of stay in a nursing home （ with a high level of care ） is about a year.

The family （ spouse or family ） will take care of the elderly when their level of care is low, and they will move into the home when they can no longer do so. In other words, everyone manages on their own until the very last minute. By the time they enter the home, they are getting very weak, so they don't have that long to live. At most, one year.

In Japan, there is a facility called "Sa-ko-jyu （ Serviced Senior Citizen's Housing ） （ It is like an apartment with a dining room and rent of 2,300,000 ） Recently my friend （ a single man in his early 70s ） entered such a place.
He is in his early 70s.
He seems to be the youngest. He was teased that it was a little early for him ？ but he moved while he could.

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#3
  • は？
  • 2022/09/23 (Fri) 08:30
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It is up to you to decide whether you want to bury your bones or return to your country permanently. That's right ？ LOL!

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#5
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/09/23 (Fri) 09:31
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I've heard that nursing care over here is expensive and terrible, as you say.
It seems that in Japan, it is not so expensive and terrible.

I often hear on the news that caregivers are rough with them and kill them, but
in the U.S. it seems to be an everyday occurrence and not newsworthy.

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