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• 元日本人A
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• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 10:59
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My wife and I are both former Japanese, but we emigrated to Japan once but ended up coming back to the US. I hope this experience will be of help to you. Before we went there, we both spoke Japanese, watched Japanese TV, and ate only Japanese food, so we thought there should be no problems living in Japan. However, when I started living there, I was confronted with the unique Japanese （ way of interacting with people, especially the elderly ）, and I realized that I am no longer Japanese. In Japan, I lived in an assisted-living facility for the elderly. The facilities, staff, and treatment were perfect and comfortable. However, many of the residents were rather condescending and elegant, and I found it difficult to get along with them in an American-style casual manner. My wife had never lived in an apartment （ or condo ） before, and this may have had some influence on her. At first, we tried to fit in, but after two or three years, it became too much, and we decided to move while we still had the energy. I decided to move to Hawaii. I bought a small house and live in a small community. I had a corona disaster right after I came here, so that also had an impact on me. ） If one of us needs nursing care, we will have to find a care home here, but as long as I am able to move around and drive, I plan to stay here for a while longer. My children want me to come closer, but since they are all on the East Coast, I don't want to stay in a cold place, so I chose to stay here. （ Before returning to Japan, I lived in San Jose. Learned the hard way ）.

• ０００
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 11:14
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＞ I myself am here unless I get divorced because my husband is American.

What if he divorces me ？?

• Gardena_23
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 13:20
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Indeed, it would be difficult to return to Japanese life if you live abroad for a long period of time. Japan is the best place to be, where you can make an occasional visit and be treated as a customer.

• 50/50
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 13:27
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Whether in Japan or America, there are jerks

Mr. 2
After all, if you live in Hawaii and don't get involved with people, why not do so in Japan ？
Was there any particular reason for you to be different?

When I retire, I'd like to live in a convenient place in the country where the cost of living is as low as possible, but if I went to a rural area in the US, it would be hard to live because of racism, so I'd still have to save my money or it would be in rural California.

• ゴン子
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 14:13
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#2 Ex-Japanese
Thank you for your valuable experience 😊
Even old people are different from each other, but you may be able to meet some who are kind and comforting when you go to the countryside. I think it's rare 🤔
I can't forget the atmosphere of the old man who was a former employee of the furniture shop in the program "family history" of TV Japan in March about Mr. Takanori Jinnai's father.
I recorded it and kept it to watch the old man again
I was having a hard time with my child at the time and thought to myself, if only there was someone like him around, I would casually wander around and bother him every day ！. He probably wouldn't give me any advice on my problems, but would just gently pat me on the shoulder with a kind smile and say, "Yeah, yeah, I see. Already, just imagining that made me weep. Maybe if I actually met her, I would shriek and cry as if I were a little girl again.
It was an experience that made me think "I should live in Japan ？" in just a minute or two. Sorry for the long sentence.

• トホホのおとっつぁん
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 14:54
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I think there is a big difference in prices. Japan is talking about 20 million yen problem in retirement, but in LA area, even if you have 1 million yen, it's not enough.
At least if you work for a Japanese company, you can't live in LA after retirement.
Many Japanese here are living paycheck to paycheck, and many of them don't have a proper retirement fund saved up.

• わざわざ
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 15:32
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Staying in the U.S. and burying your bones in the Japanese-American community is a total loser.

• ワクチン義務化
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 16:35
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＃ Like 8, you bring up winners and losers in everything, and
even when it's about other people, you decide by your own yardstick.
You're in the US and you're on a Japanese-American forum ？.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 19:09
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8

What does it mean to stay in America and bury your bones in Nikkei?

Usually it means to bury one's bones in America.

• 無知
• 2022/05/23 (Mon) 22:52
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Well, well, well.
Yutaka didn't learn proper Japanese, so give them a break.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/05/24 (Tue) 09:11
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I had simply longed for the "blue skies of California" since I was a teenager.

After three years and one term as an expatriate, I realized that I would get married, have children, take them back to Japan, where they would start school and where I could not speak Japanese.

He realized that it was impossible to settle down in Japan and decided to quit his job as an expatriate and live in Japan permanently.


I am now "late in life" and my grandchildren have sent me off on a walking pilgrimage to the other side of the world.

Having said that, I would like to walk the path of Shikoku with my current legs for another 10 years.

• ７０代前半
• 2022/05/24 (Tue) 11:51
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#2 Former Japanese

Thank you for your experience.
I understand that you are u-turn to the U.S. again after returning home. Perhaps you came back to Japan too soon.

I would imagine that you were in a very healthy （ and young ） group at the assisted living facility. That would make them a bad fit.

We are talking about returning home when they can no longer drive. That would be in their 80s. I am in my early 70s now. Right now we are in a house with no problems and neither of us needs care.

We still like the climate here （ and the South Bay ） is hard to leave.
We don't have to worry about the cost of medical care anymore since we are on Medicare.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/05/24 (Tue) 14:38
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When the children started school, they could not speak Japanese, and their conversations with their parents were also in English?

• トホホのおとっつぁん
• 2022/05/24 (Tue) 15:05
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Many Chinese and Korean Americans speak Chinese and Korean, but Japanese Americans are not so good.

• 昭和のおとっつぁん
• 2022/05/24 (Tue) 16:54
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Born and raised in Los Angeles, Japanese-American Joe Inoue is

fluent in English and Japanese, as well as Portuguese, Chinese, and Spanish

and is known as a multi-lingual.

• no way
• 2022/05/24 (Tue) 20:28
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In case you are wondering, all the music Joe Inouye makes sounds the same.
I can't distinguish them at all.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/05/25 (Wed) 07:46
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#14 Showa-era Ototsuan

＞ When the children started school, were they unable to speak Japanese, and did they also speak English with their parents?

No, we thought they would never learn Japanese if we spoke to them in English, so we spoke to them in Japanese from the time they were babies.

I don't know if there are Japanese from Japan who still speak like that, but around 50 years ago, in the Japanese community here in the Valley, many people used strange Japanese like "Me is going downtown, are you going too? I did not want my children to learn this kind of Japanese, so I spoke to them in correct Japanese at home from the time they were babies and pretended not to understand when they responded in English. However, once we stepped out of the house, of course, all the neighborhood children spoke English. Naturally, my child's first language would be English.

Therefore, even today, my 40-odd sons who work for LAUSD speak correct Japanese when they talk to us.

• トホホのおとっつぁん
• 2022/05/25 (Wed) 08:47
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Some parents take their children to Japan during summer vacation or leave them with Japanese relatives to help them learn Japanese.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/05/26 (Thu) 09:26
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Summer vacation in public schools here starts about a month earlier than in Japan, so

some parents send their children to Japan to experience school immediately.

• pooske
• 2022/06/10 (Fri) 22:20
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The ideal is to live in both. It is hard because you have to do one or the other. But if you ask me where I want to end up, it might be Japan, where medical costs are lower and the cost of living is lower, but that would just mean more weight on living in Japan, and as long as I am physically able, it is both.
But I really want to live in Europe as well.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/06/12 (Sun) 09:45
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＞ When their children started school, we took them back to Japan with us, taking with us those who could not speak Japanese


Nowadays, these 40-weather-weather-aged punks speak decent Japanese when they talk to us.

It seems that it was fortunate that they had been speaking Japanese well since they were children.

They were also able to study English well, and after college they became teachers in LAUSD and made a steady living.

My grandchildren's Japanese is almost completely wiped out because they did not live with me 24 hours a day.

• melon
• 2022/06/12 (Sun) 19:53
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If you go back to Japan today, you will see a too funny masked bewitching scenery.
It seems that most of the dumb people wear them because they can't show their faces to others anymore, or because everyone else is wearing them, even though they are not obliged to.
And visitors to Japan are now limited to tours only, and there seems to be strict checks by tour conductors to make sure they always wear masks （ lol ）.

I don't want to wear a mask in the intense heat of Japan ？ Let's keep putting our opinions in the Prime Minister's Office HP opinion form to eliminate the intense heat thought stopping sympathetic pressure mask ！.

• 倍金萬
• 2022/06/14 (Tue) 08:36
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＞ I don't want to wear a mask in the intense heat of Japan


Once you get used to it, it doesn't matter so much how hot it is.

When I first started hiking in the mountains, my breathing became very heavy and I felt a lot of strain on my lungs, especially when inhaling, but after two or three times I didn't mind at all.

The same can be said for heat. You don't wear an overcoat in the middle of summer, you just feel the heat around your mouth, so you will soon get used to it.

But I personally think that the "mask requirement" in Japan should be dropped. Especially outside.

And what is the title of this topic?

• ボケ
• 2022/06/14 (Tue) 08:56
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#27 melon

your own interpretation
everyone in Japan has been wearing masks of their own volition since before the corona

• 倍金萬
• 2022/06/15 (Wed) 07:13
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＞ In Japan, everyone voluntarily wore masks even before the corona


It was only people with allergies such as hay fever, not all people walking on the streets did.

After corona, first of all 100% of people do.

Japanese who care about other people's eyes will feel guilty if they don't wear a mask, and almost everyone will wear a mask.


However, most people also have the habit of "getting together for a drink" in the evening, and

"drink or sing" at a diner or bar, and splash around.

This does not reduce the infection rate.