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Permanent residency after returning home

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#1
  • 帰国後永住権
  • mail
  • 2022/01/09 14:22

Please let me know if you know of any.

I am currently considering returning to Japan. I know that I can return to Japan and still receive Social Security in Japan after retiring from the US, but what will happen to my permanent residency?

1 . Can I still receive Social Security in Japan even if I give up my permanent residence?
2 . If I want to keep my Permanent Resident status, do I have to return ? to the US once a year?
3 . If I stay in Japan without doing anything, will I automatically lose my permanent resident status?
4 . I have heard that the permanent resident status remains the same unless I voluntarily renounce it, but
if I eventually come back here with the permanent resident status after 5 or 10 years ( if I am still alive and well ) can I come back
with that permanent resident status? Can I come back with that permanent residency 。。。。

I am considering returning to Japan to care for my parents, but after they pass away, if I am still healthy, I would like to come back to the US. I would like to receive the pension in Japan, but I am wondering what will happen to my permanent residence after that... I have so many questions. If anyone knows anything about this, I would appreciate it if you could tell me.

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#37
  • pooske
  • 2022/01/22 (Sat) 22:59
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I will add a few more.
Whether you can obtain permanent residence again ? You cannot, but if you want to spend the rest of your life in the U.S., you should obtain citizenship as soon as possible. But if you get it, the procedure is quite troublesome if you don't want it anymore.
GC knows your departure date from the U.S., so the number of days will be calculated by that. If you go to Canada or Mexico by land, your departure date is not known. The U.S. side does not control it. We recommend the same route when you come back. Then you can return to Japan from Canada or Mexico. However, you need to have a place of residence in the U.S. for your annual tax filing. However, these too are becoming more and more difficult. Computer management is a problem.

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#38
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 06:59
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# 37

# If I can get to Canada or Mexico by land
from Japan, where can I go by land ??

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#39
  • 青丘
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 14:07
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It was about 4 years ago, but a friend of mine who had both American and Japanese citizenship returned to Japan.
He kept his dual citizenship because he had a house in the US and he might go back to the US, but when he came back to Japan, somehow his dual citizenship was discovered by the Japanese immigration and he was forced to choose one or the other on the spot.
I wonder if the information between the US and Japan is connected now, and if they can tell by the same name, date of birth, etc. ?
My friend chose US citizenship and is now living in Japan as an American while working as a permanent resident of Japan.
He says it is a hassle to have to apply for permanent residency every few years, but he seems to have no problems.

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#40
  • 日本では認められていない二重国籍
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 15:55
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> A friend of mine who had both American and Japanese citizenship returned to Japan.
> He kept his dual citizenship

He called himself a dual citizen w

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#41
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 18:22
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My friend entered the Corona Disaster with a Japanese passport without any problem.

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#42
  • は?
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 18:28
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#41
So what ?
It's obvious.

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#43
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 19:05
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My friend with US citizenship entered Japan with a Japanese passport
Of course, yes. Good job.

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#44
  • 帰国後の永住権
  • 2022/01/23 (Sun) 22:43
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Thanks for the advice, pooske. I learned a lot.
I have children born and raised in the U.S., so I have a U.S. address, and I will keep in mind not to make enemies with the IRS.
I don't know how long I will be caring for my parents, so I can't make any decisions, but based on your advice
I will decide how to take care of myself in the future. Thank you very much.

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#45
  • コピペくん
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 03:18
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Nationality Act Article 11 A Japanese citizen shall lose Japanese nationality if he/she acquires the nationality of a foreign country at his/her own volition.

Article 20 of the Nationality Act In cases where notification is made pursuant to the provisions of Article 3, paragraph (1), a person making a false notification shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not more than one year or a fine of not more than two hundred thousand yen.

Article 18 of the Passport Act A passport shall cease to be valid if it falls under any of the following items.
(i) If the holder of the passport dies or loses Japanese nationality.

Article 23 of the Passport Act Any person who falls under any of the following items shall be punished by imprisonment with work for not more than five years or a fine of not more than three million yen, or both.
(i) Any person who has obtained a passport or travel document pertaining to an application or request under this Act by making a false statement in a document concerning such application or request or by any other wrongful act
(vii) Any person who has exercised a passport or travel document that has lost its validity

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#47
  • ブラックリスト
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 06:20
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Suppose, for example, that a husband, after acquiring citizenship, does not renounce his Japanese citizenship even though it is required by law.
The wife became a permanent resident as the spouse of the husband who became that U.S. citizen. And when the wife's passport is about to expire
and she goes to the consulate to renew it, the wife's permanent resident card has information that her husband's citizenship made him a permanent resident.
So they find out that the husband has become a U.S. citizen but has not gone through the process of renouncing his Japanese citizenship.
The consulate orders him to renounce his Japanese citizenship. But ! the husband continues to ignore it. ( Thinking that he would never find out )
the consulate will send him several advisories. If he continues to ignore it, the consulate will send the husband's information to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Then the husband returns to Japan, unaware that he is in such a situation.
♯ This is the example that 39 wrote. Immigration has the information that the husband is a citizen, so they will ask him to choose
either one on the spot, because Japan does not allow dual citizenship. This is because Japan has a law that does not allow dual citizenship.

When you receive your citizenship in the U.S., you will go through an oath-taking ceremony, where you will be told to
immediately renounce your citizenship if your country does not recognize dual citizenship. This is fine because the U.S. recognizes multiple citizenships, but for those who have become citizens
it is properly stated as above.

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#48
  • 実際
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 07:40
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It is said that only about 1 in 10 people honestly go through the process of renouncing their Japanese nationality.

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#49
  • は?
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 08:09
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#43
You didn't mention dual citizenship in #41, idiot.

What do you mean by "Good work", are you not Japanese speaking ??

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#50
  • ムキになりすぎる器の小さい日本人
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 08:15
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↑ You can tell from the flow of the story.

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#51
  • 豆知識
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 08:56
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They say if you have a small vessel, you have a small vagina.

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#52
  • ネガティブな発言はしないが得
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:05
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> It is said that only about 1 in 10 people honestly go through the process of renouncing their Japanese citizenship.

If you were born in Japan, you can get your Japanese nationality back in a year or two if you apply. Why should you bother to renounce your nationality ??

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#53
  • 自己紹介乙
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:41
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51
You are. LOL.

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#54
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 09:47
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# Japanese nationality can be regained in one or two years.

Since he has not cancelled his Japanese nationality,
he cannot get it back as it is
without first going through the process of renouncing his Japanese nationality and cancelling his Japanese nationality.

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#55
  • そう簡単ではない
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 12:28
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There is no guarantee that a person who has once renounced Japanese nationality will be able to re-acquire Japanese nationality in 1 ~ 2 years.
An application for re-acquisition of nationality is submitted to the Ministry of Justice, and then an examination begins.
If the applicant is found to be in violation or does not meet the requirements, even if he/she is a former Japanese citizen, he/she may not be able to re-acquire Japanese nationality.
You should not be overconfident that anyone can get their nationality back if they apply. In fact, there are people whose applications have been rejected.
Nationality is not something that can be so easily ( freely ) acquired & or abandoned. It is something that is determined by the law when there is a reason to
properly abide by the laws set by the government and when there is no other choice but to re-acquire Japanese nationality.

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#58
  • 現実
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 15:06
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When you become a US citizen and try to renew your Japanese passport
you are asked if you are a citizen of another country ? but you have to tell a lie
at that point it becomes a serious crime and you are arrested and taken to the police station when you get your passport.
You may think you are naive because you are a former Japanese citizen, but from the Japanese government's point of view, it is the same as a North Korean or Chinese person trying to obtain a Japanese passport under false pretenses
There is a court case of a person who was caught violating the Nationality Law.
The court fined him for failing to follow the procedure to revoke his Japanese citizenship, because the period between the date he received his US citizenship and the date he applied for his passport was illegal. Of course, it is now impossible to revert to Japanese nationality!

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#59
  • 2022/01/24 (Mon) 15:25
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↑ You ain't got time for that.

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