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彼女が妊娠しました。
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- syapa69
- 2009/11/23 15:46
今付き合っている彼女を妊娠させてしました、彼女は学生です。
自分は30歳です、彼女は20代後半でお互い協議の上で人工中絶をすることで同意しました。現在彼女はおおよそ妊娠2カ月です。(生理が遅れて1週間、検査薬で妊娠していることがわかりました。)
彼女は学校の保険に加入していますが、それ以外の保険には加入していません、どなた様かよい病院をご存じでしたら教えてください。
日系・米系問いません、よろしくお願いします。
よろしくお願いします。
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- 柴
- 2009/11/28 (Sat) 00:11
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もうかなり前になるけど赤ちゃんを抱いて通学している女子高生をみかけたもんだ。
やはり宗教的なものがあるのかな。 選択の余地が無かったのかな。 産んでも育てられるんだ、と思った。 行政がどれだけ援助しているかは知らないがフードスタンプくらいはすぐにくれるのだろう。
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY1U66g5QSY&feature=related
- #58
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- 珍保 立夫
- 2009/11/28 (Sat) 13:49
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#51、オレは中絶できる病院の情報収集集などしたか?
あんたは猪突猛進型で、熱くなると誰へメッセージを贈りたいかもわからなくなるのかな?
まず、堕胎の危険性や生命の尊重は十分に理解しているつもりだ。
だが、トピ主は彼女で協議して中絶という一つの方向を選んだのは事実だ!
その上で、中絶反対派が、「#30→#1にも将来は裕福になれる可能性があるはずだから。」とか、
「#46→彼女ときちんと結婚して新しい家族を始めるべきです。」、「#39→とりあえず生んでアダプト
してもらうというチョイスはないですか?」等の無責任タラレバ発言に納得がいかないだけだ!
タラレバで話すのなら、もし彼女が「あなたの子供は要らない、あなたは費用を工面して何処かへ
消えてくれ」と言っていたらどうする?
トピと彼女がお互いに今後とも子供は欲しくない、結婚もする気もないと考えていたら
「まずは子供を生んで、施設に預けちゃえば子供はきっと幸せな人生を過ごすはずだ!」
と責任を持って言えるか?
何とかなるさの気持ちで中絶反対のアドバイスをしておいて、学生の(もし)シングルマザー
になって生活困窮した場合に支援できる覚悟で中絶を反対しているのかが疑問だから
言っているだけだ!
トピ主(と彼女)は生活基盤が出来ていなか、もしくは将来設計を前提に話してていない。
その二人に「結婚して、、、」、「何とかなるさ」、「養子に出せば」の発言は無責任過ぎないか?
と言って何がおかしい?
#54の“中学生カップル”や“レイプ”だったら?
とりあえず産んで養子に出す?結婚する???? しないだろう。
要するに、相手との生活設計が不透明・不可能だから、中絶という方法を考えるはずだ。
このトピ主達も状況は違うだろけど、今後の生活設計をたてられないから協議して中絶を選んだんだよ。
その選択を覆してまもでも「産め」と言うなら、「何とかなるさ」、「養子にすれば」以外の筋の通った
意見ができない人たちを理解できないだけだ!
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- ミステリー
- 2009/11/28 (Sat) 19:31
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中絶に関しては手放しに”良いのでは?”とは言えません。
また、生んだら?とも同様に言えません。
あくまでも状況によると思います。
彼女はアメリカへは学校で知識を得るために来たのであって、子供を得るために来た訳ではないでしょ。彼女の家族だってショックでしょう。
彼とも将来一緒に過ごす覚悟がない、それだけの生活基盤が整っていないというのであれば、中絶も仕方のない選択になると思います。
良い年をした大人同士だからこそ、2人で協議した結果を尊重したいと思います。一番悩んでいるのは本人たちだろうし。
生むだけ産んで数だけ増やしてまともな教育を受けさせられないような生活が良い生活だとは思えません。それはラティーノたちを見ていて思います。
養子というのも最終的な手段であって、基本的には自分たちで作った命を生んだら自分たちで責任を持って育てるべきで、他人を頼るのは本当にし方がないときだけにして欲しいです。
それが今は出来る時期ではないと判断したのなら中絶も仕方がないと思います。それも責任のひとつだと思います。
養子をもらった方も子供を得たという喜びはあるし、愛情も注げます。でも、無責任に子供を作った親は褒められる対象にはなりません。養子をもらった夫婦をみて思ったことです。
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私は20代後半の妊娠と十代の妊娠は違うと思います。女性は産める年齢に限りがありますから。
だから とりあえず なんです。わかる人とわからない人がいるとは思いますが、いやだいやだと思っていても生まれたら急にかわいくなったと言う母親もいます。生んでみたらかわいくて、自分の人生を犠牲にしてでも(極端な言い方ですが)育てたいと思うかもしれない。思うことができなかったらロサンゼルスは消防署が何も言わずに赤ちゃんを引き取ってくれます。
The Safely Surrendered Baby Law
Are you pregnant and have decided not to keep your baby after delivery? Did you know that, as the parent, you can drop off your baby at Safe Surrender Sites?
The Safely Surrendered Baby Law allows parents to drop off their baby to any County fire station or hospital emergency room without fear of prosecution.
No Questions Asked, Guaranteed Confidentiality, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.
Why is California doing this?
The purpose of the Safely Surrender Baby Law is to protect babies from being abandoned by their parents and potentially being hurt or killed. You have seen the televised tragic stories of babies left in dumpsters, alleys, public bathrooms and other places. The parents who committed these acts may have been under severe emotional distress. The mothers may have hidden their pregnancy, fearful of what would happen if their families found out. Because they were afraid and had nowhere to turn for help, they abandoned their infants. Abandoning the child is dangerous, illegal and tragically results in the baby’s death. Because of the Safely Surrendered Baby Law, this tragedy doesn’t ever have to happen in California again!
A Baby’s Story
At 8:30 am . on Thursday, July 25, 2002 , a healthy newborn baby was brought to St. Bernardino Medical Center in San Bernardino under the provisions of the California Safely Surrendered Baby Law. As the law states, the baby’s mother did not have to identify herself. When the baby was brought to the emergency room, he was examined by a pediatrician, who determined that the baby was healthy and doing fine. He was placed with a loving family while the adoption process was started. Every baby deserves a chance for a healthy life. If someone you know is considering abandoning a newborn, let her know there are other options. What happens to the baby? The baby will be examined by firefighters (or hospital staff) and given medical treatment, if needed. Then the baby will be placed in a pre-adoptive home. It is best that women seek help to receive proper medical care and counseling while they are pregnant. If you know anyone who is pregnant and considering abandonment, please let them know that they can safely surrender their babies into the safe hands of any Los Angeles County firefighter or hospital medical professional.
Read the FAQ and if you need more info visit
www.babysafela.org
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Q. What is the Safely Surrendered Baby Law?
A. California’s Safely Surrendered Baby Law allows parents to give up their baby confidentially. As long as the baby has not been abused or neglected, parents may give up their newborn without fear of arrest or prosecution.
Q. How does it work?
A. A distressed parent who is unable or unwilling to care for a baby can legally, confidentially and safely give up a baby within three days of birth. The baby must be handed to an employee at a Los Angeles County emergency room or fire station. As long as the child shows no signs of abuse or neglect, no name or other information is required. In case the parent changes his or her mind at a later date and wants the baby back, workers will use bracelets to help connect them to each other. One bracelet will be placed on the baby, and a matching bracelet will be given to the parent.
Q. What if a parent wants the baby back?
A. Parents who change their minds can begin the process of reclaiming their newborns within 14 days. These parents should call the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services at 1-800-540-4000.
Q. Can only a parent bring in the baby?
A. In most cases, a parent will bring in the baby. The law allows other people to bring in the baby if they have legal custody.
Q. Does the parent have to call before bringing in the baby?
A. No. A parent can bring in a baby anytime, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week so long as the parent gives the baby to someone who works at the hospital or fire station.
Q. Does a parent have to tell anything to the people taking the baby?
A. No. However, hospital personnel will ask the parent to fill out a questionnaire designed to gather important medical history information, which is very useful in caring for the child. Although encouraged, filling out the questionnaire is not required.
Q. What happens to the parent?
A. Once the parent(s) has safely turned over the baby, they are free to go.
Q. Why is California doing this?
A. The purpose of the Safely Surrendered Baby Law is to protect babies from being abandoned by their parents and potentially being hurt or killed. You may have heard tragic stories of babies left in dumpsters or public bathrooms. The parents who committed these acts may have been under severe emotional distress. The mothers may have hidden their pregnancies, fearful of what would happen if their families found out. Because they were afraid and had nowhere to turn for help, they abandoned their infants. Abandoning a baby puts the child in extreme danger. It is also illegal. Too often, it results in the baby’s death. Because of the Safely Surrendered Baby Law, this tragedy doesn’t ever have to happen in California again.
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