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Prius converter was stolen.

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#1
  • みん
  • mail
  • 2022/11/23 18:45

The following topic was no longer available for writing, so we have started it up again.
https://losangeles.vivinavi.com/eb/index/-?topic_id=_widg_1a00f2dcc0a1bbf880f8a9dda39961c4fa92112005&show=all#_widg_1a00f2dcc0a1bbf880f8a9dda39961c4fa92112005

I was just about to start the engine of a car that was parked on the street when I heard an explosion and someone nearby ran to my car and said, "The converter is I think it's been stolen. It was stolen from my car last night ！."

I thought I had seen a post like this on Vivinavi... So I read the past topics.
I was too shocked... The prices are the same, but it's the holiday season and many mechanics are closed... Crying
I've done a lot of research and it seems that there is some kind of anti-theft cover, but has anyone actually worn or had one installed?
I asked because it would be very painful to have it stolen again even if I put it on newly, and I wanted to know if there is any countermeasure.
In addition, the garage only has space for two cars, and with three cars, one of them will inevitably be parked on the street.

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#2
  • みん
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 18:58
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I am so shocked that my sentences are incoherent or words are missing.
Sorry for the lack of clarity.

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#4
  • みん
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 20:21
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In such a case, do you report it to the police?
Even if I report it, they won't do anything special, will they?

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#5
  • 珍保 立夫
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 20:28
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#1min

Parking a vehicle outdoors means that there is always a risk of theft and damage to items inside and outside the vehicle, not just the catalyst.

Why are you collecting information on anti-theft covers just for catalyst theft ？

Why don't you consider installing a security system that reacts to any vibration or tilt to the vehicle ？

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#6
  • みん
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 21:07
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The security system is on, but for some reason it did not respond.
The ones I know also seem to react or not to loud vibrations.
Is there such a thing as good or bad?
I'm thinking of changing to a different security system because of this, any recommendations?

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#7
  • お気の毒です
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 21:23
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If you have purchased comprehensive vehicle insurance, your insurance will cover the damage, so please contact your insurance company immediately. Since this is now a popular damage case, they will be able to give you advice on how to deal with the situation in the future.
For now, you have no choice but to rent a car, ride-share, or use Uber.

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#8

I am very sorry for your loss. I am so sorry for your feelings.

＞ Do you report such a case to the police?

I think you will need a Police Report to file a claim with your insurance company.

I heard that it costs about $ 500 to install an anti-theft cover.
By the way, what year Prius is it ？?

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#9
  • みん
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 21:51
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#7 I'm sorry for your loss
I will be contacting my insurance company first thing tomorrow morning.
Yes, that's right.
I looked online and was under the impression that Prius were being targeted intensively.
Tomorrow, I plan to use my family's car ❖ (I'm at work and my family is off).

#8 Mr. Prius
If I get coverage from my insurance company, I need a POLICE REPORT?
I was told that the cover would cost several hundred dollars, but we have no choice.
Furthermore, it is a 2012 model.
mile is still under 5,000 and in good shape, so I'm not even thinking about replacing it yet....

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#10
  • みん
  • 2022/11/23 (Wed) 22:53
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I just filed a police report.
I was nervous because it was my first time and I am not good at English, but somehow?
I will try to call the insurance company tomorrow. I will call the insurance company tomorrow, but they might be closed because of the time of year...

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#11

Less than 50K miles in 12 years is not much.

I have a 13 year Prius, but I wasn't that worried because from what I have found, pre-10 year Prius （ with easy access to the converter ？ ） are easy targets.

I would appreciate if you could share about the anti-theft cover.

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#11
  • 防げません
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 07:58
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If you can't park in a garage, I suggest you switch to a non-Prius car. You can be a victim even if it is not a Prius, but it is a matter of probability.
Even if you put an alarm or an anti-theft cover, if it is stolen, it will be stolen. Even if the police come and catch you while you are taking the time to remove the anti-theft cover, you will have to replace it anyway because it is already damaged. The cost of the cover will only increase.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-07/catalytic-converter-theft-toyota-prius-old

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#13
  • 防げる
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 08:42
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＃ 11

If it had a cover on it, it wouldn't be easy to cut it off and you would give up without even trying to remove it.

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#14
  • みん
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 09:43
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I learned a lot from a person who works in the car-related business who contacted me directly at email.
The answer to my own question, "Since the converter can be detached, shouldn't the theft cover also be easily cut or removed? The answer to my own question was closer to #13 and different from #11. Of course, I am not saying that it is 100% theft-proof, but it does seem to be a major deterrent.

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#15
  • dji
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 10:31
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If you put it in a chacotte,
it won't be taken if you don't put it under the car.

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#16
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 10:33
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＃ The garage only has room for two cars, and with three cars, one of them will inevitably be parked on the street.

All three cars are probably not Priuses.
Negotiate and ask them to let you park in the garage.

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#17
  • dji
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 10:45
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Wires around the catalyst. （ 30 or more ） Thieves give up.　They probably use a wire saw.
Catalyst covers are made of aluminum and are expensive. Installation labor costs will also be incurred.

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#21
  • スイーツ
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 17:00
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Has anyone else had a converter stolen? It seems like Prius is an easy target, but I'm not sure what's really going on. The more I look into it, the more worried I am becoming.

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#23
  • dji
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 20:24
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I don't know if I'd use a jack to steal it ？.

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#24
  • おっさん
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 21:19
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I guess too many people don't watch the news in English even though they are here
It's not just Prius, it's because California and the media are anti-Toyota.
all catalytic converters of all cars, including American cars, are made of rare metals, so they just target cars parked where they can be easily stolen
but all you see on the news is Prius, Tundra
police are running a campaign to imprint numbers on catalytic converters for free
there's no way to prevent it
California wants to get rid of engine cars, so maybe there's some politics involved... maybe they dare not catch them.

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#25
  • フルカバレージ？
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 21:41
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＃ 10

Does Min-san have full coverage on his car insurance ？
If so, it will not be a problem because the insurance will cover it.
（ Will there be a deductible ？ ）

If you don't have full coverage, you can report it to the insurance company and they will not do anything ？.

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#26
  • みん
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 22:38
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Yes, my insurance is full coverage and it seems to cover some, but not all.
However, it seems that using insurance may increase my premiums, so I plan to repair the car at actual cost.

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#27
  • てんてん
  • 2022/11/24 (Thu) 23:10
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#23
Most people seem to be using jacks to steal?
What other methods do they use?

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#28
  • 元メカニック
  • 2022/11/25 (Fri) 01:38
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＃ I bet 23 has never seen a good jack used by a mechanic ？
A good jack will raise the car in 2 seconds, about 3 arm movements.

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#29
  • みん
  • 2022/11/25 (Fri) 06:10
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My insurance was full coverage, so it seems that it will pay for some of it.
However, it seems that if I use my insurance for something like this, my premiums may go up? However, if I use my insurance for something like this, it seems that my premiums may go up? \I am thinking of repairing the car at actual cost.
I would like to ask if anyone has used insurance for this damage, how much did the premiums go up?

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#30
  • 教えて～
  • 2022/11/25 (Fri) 06:26
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Former mechanic

how long does it take to remove the converter
after the car is up in 2 seconds with your very good jack ？
5 minutes, you mean ？ for reference, how long is the job? ～ I was wondering.

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#33
  • 元メカニック
  • 2022/11/25 (Fri) 08:08
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#30

I can raise the car with a jack in 2 seconds, cut it with an electric saw in under a minute and leave.
If it's covered, it takes longer to cut and makes more noise when cutting, so you give up.

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#34

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/brazen-video-shows-group-of-thieves-steal-catalytic-converter-in-mid-wilshire-area/

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#35
  • みん
  • 2022/11/25 (Fri) 10:16
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#32 dji
Please refrain from making comments like this.

If you search YouTube, there are several videos of converter theft, and they get the job done and away with great speed.
They are really fast.

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#36

I hear that the newer Prius are less likely to be stolen, but is that because they are constructed differently?

After all, what kind of car is the converter least likely to be stolen?

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#37
  • 昼間に盗みの瞬間
  • 2022/11/26 (Sat) 03:47
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=Awr9zTUG94Fj8DYCnQBXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=prius+converter+theft&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-s#id=27&vid=fc49f0cefa2dfe9a19ba530472b38a05&action=view

2 minutes 30 seconds to complete theft ・ ・ ・ ・

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#38
  • おやおやおや
  • 2022/11/26 (Sat) 08:09
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36

Tesla, right?

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#39
  • てんてん
  • 2022/11/26 (Sat) 19:50
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It's frightening that crimes that can't be prevented are happening so frequently.
And it looks like it will go on for a while.
Some cars are structurally difficult to steal, so I wonder if the Prius has a bare converter.
Isn't Toyota going to bear some kind of burden?

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#41
  • おやおやおや
  • 2022/11/26 (Sat) 22:03
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39
What kind of car has a cover on the catalytic converter from the start ？
It's bare on purpose because it gets very hot.

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#42
  • てんてん
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 08:35
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#41
oh well, that thing... LOL
I guess I read it wrong.

I wrote "some cars are structurally difficult to steal", not that they are covered from the start.

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#44
  • 元メカニック
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 09:06
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Older Prius, pickups, etc. are exposed right below the car when you lift it up, but more and more modern cars are attached right behind the engine, and you have to stick your hand deep into the engine compartment to reach the catalyst, so it is structurally impossible to easily cut off and steal.

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#45
  • 心強い
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 11:15
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Your commentary on the former mechanic is scintillating ♬.

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#46
  • 田舎君
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 11:59
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I am a little unsure of this information, but I will pass it on. I have heard that there is a special orange paint that is heat resistant and hard to peel off, and that recyclers will not take back converters with that paint on them. So it is likely that the thief will give up the converter the moment he sees it. If this information is correct, it may be cheaper than installing an anti-theft cover. If you know anything about paint （ I will try to find it myself ） but information would be appreciated. By the way, I have had a converter stolen from my company parking lot. I didn't have to report it to the police, but my insurance company took care of it. The insurance is a deductible ＄ 500 policy so it only cost ＄ 500 and the next premium amount was not changed. I would like to use the paint if it is found as it could be stolen again.

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#47
  • おやおやおや
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 17:12
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44

recent cars （ lol ）
you mean mini cars （ lol ） small displacement so you can use a small catalytic converter and put it in the engine room
you can't run mini cars here, and ？ what type of car? ？ ？

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#48
  • 今日子
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 18:45
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Mr. Countryman

I hear that some people are taking such measures.
I'll do a little research and see what I can find.

High Temperature Spray Paint used on my catalytic converter
Reviewed in the United States on June 17, 2022
Color: Universal Bright RedSize: 11 Ounce (Pack of 1)Style: Coating
I was looking for a high temperature bright red spray paint. In my area, there has been a rash of stolen catalytic converters from vehicles. I painted my CC in red paint and used white bold letters for the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number)!

I think it's better to take precautions than not, but many people still get stolen.
I really don't like to talk about having to spend every day stressed out about this stuff.

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#49
  • プリ
  • 2022/11/27 (Sun) 23:01
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#44 Former mechanic

Can you please tell me the specific car model that does not have a bare catalyst ？
I would appreciate it for reference.

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#50
  • 元メカニック
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 01:20
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#47

Some Accord, Camry, Civic, and Corolla's from 2010 onward have them right behind the tacho foot or integrated, and you have to stick your hand deep into the engine compartment to remove them. Newer models also have inexpensive sub converters that cost around $200 new, and they are visible from under the car, but that is not what they are after, the main expensive catalyst.
＃ Amateurs like 47 and others often mistake it for a catheric converter.

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#51
  • 元メカ今セールス
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 09:32
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With the Prius, you could save on gas and you could buy a muffler.
How about a new car? ？

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#52
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 10:11
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How about a new car? ？ but
how long will they sell the Prius since it is not classified as an EV car?

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#53
  • 元メカ今セールス
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 10:17
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Until the final deadline, gasoline-powered cars bought just before the deadline are sure to fetch a premium and sell for a high price.

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#55
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 10:57
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What if the use of gasoline-powered vehicles is banned ？?

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#56
  • 元メカ今セールス
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 12:53
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The ban on new car sales has not yet been lifted,
and may be overturned,
and it takes time to recharge the battery, so I don't think it will be popular.
Do you prefer automatic or quartz watches ？. I think I'll go back to gasoline-powered cars for the same thing.

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#57
  • ひろ
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 14:59
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↓ It is easy to understand if you look at this

https://www.ecodriveautosales.com/customize/catprotector/

Also, the next generation Prius has been announced and is scheduled to go on sale next February.
The appearance is not so good. The exterior looks like a Tesla, and I wish it looked more like a Prius.

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#58
  • Norika
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 15:40
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I read the eco-drive url a long time ago and I'm sure many of you have read it.
However, "It is riveted in place, so you can't remove it with a screwdriver or anything else. Also, the board is made of stainless steel so it is waterproof and rust resistant and will not lose its strength. I especially recommend it for those who usually park on the street." and it is vague whether the CAT itself will not be cut (or destroyed), and it is worrisome that it does not mention the possibility of the CAT being stolen again.
Or, if wearing the Eco-Drive protector can prevent theft 100%, I would like to see a firm statement to the contrary.
(I don't know about Ecodrive, but there are quite a few victims who have worn protectors elsewhere and have been stolen again. )
If you are confident in your protector, it will help those who have Prius, and Ecodrive can also bring in customers. I wish I could get a note from the Ecodrive people.

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#59
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 16:31
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The Prius name will remain
Prius ＝ and will no longer be called a hybrid and will be replaced by Prius ＝ EV cars.

Hybrid cars are increasingly regulated in
some countries and regions due to global decarbonization trends and other factors, and
Toyota plans to add electric cars and other options as well.

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#60
  • 倍金万
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 16:44
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From the URL in #57, it looks like if I grind the heads of the rivets that are driven into the left and right boards

with a grinder that cuts the front and rear pipes of the Cateric converter

this board will also come off in a very short time.

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#61
  • まおりん
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 19:57
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I am interested in the Eco-Drive protector, but am curious about Norika's post.
what do you think?

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#62
  • ひろ
  • 2022/11/28 (Mon) 21:30
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The mechanic I am working with will weld a bar that will not break immediately at his place.

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#63
  • Norika
  • 2022/11/29 (Tue) 08:00
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Many people seem to have taken various countermeasures, but I watched a video that compared about 5-6 different kinds of 모듈(내 installation and cutting), and most of them were destroyed within 5 minutes or so.
There may be many factors such as the environment in which they are parked, the persistence of the thief, etc.

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#64
  • ブルー
  • 2022/11/29 (Tue) 08:30
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Even a sturdy bar is going to be cut off in a few minutes. It depends on who steals it. Some will look at it and give up, others will steal it if they have the right tools. Even if they give up, they might come back at a later date and steal it. There are even people who have had theirs stolen so many times.

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#65
  • 防げません
  • 2022/11/29 (Tue) 18:25
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It is true that cutting the anti-theft cover takes time and makes a lot of noise, but the rivets that attach it can be easily removed with a drill. It is also very quiet.

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#66
  • やっぱり
  • 2022/11/29 (Tue) 23:00
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That's right. In the end, you can't prevent it completely. If anything, there are definitely people who will come back with the right tools.

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#67
  • 田舎君
  • 2022/11/30 (Wed) 15:14
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Six of the top 10 vehicles with the most converters stolen in the U.S. West Coast region were Japanese cars.
https://www.carfax.com/blog/catalytic-converter-theft
If you can only park on the street, this data may relieve some stress if you purchase a car.

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#68
  • 知りたがり
  • 2022/11/30 (Wed) 23:00
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If the population is small, the number of thefts will naturally be small, and if the population is large, the number of thefts will naturally be large.
So, do you know of any sites where thefts are calculated as percentages (probability ， ， probability ， probability ， probability ， probability)?

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#69
  • 被害者
  • 2022/11/30 (Wed) 23:29
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I had the same damage about a month ago, 2009 Honda CR-V.
In the morning, I heard an alarm and looked outside to see a couple of people running away in a hurry. I checked the car at that time and was relieved to see that the door had not been pried open, but when I started the engine, there was an explosion. One side of the car was completely cut off and the other side was cut off in the middle.
I called the insurance company and they seemed very familiar with the situation and explained, "We know it's not something you did （ ） such as a scratch on the body and your insurance will cover it （ ＄ 250 deductible ） and it will not raise your insurance. " he explained to me. I took it to the store right away and was told they don't have the parts in stock because of all these crimes lately and they don't know when they will get them. It took 10 days to get the car back.
I told a few people at work about it, and there were 5 cases of damage among my friends and acquaintances ！
My friend who drives a Prius said he heard about it and immediately put a cover on it. He said he hoped it wouldn't stop people from stealing it, but that it would take time and they wouldn't try to take that risk.
$ He said it took about 300.
There are some cars that have converters on them that are （ certainly not ） stolen, and other cars that are hard to steal. I think it is a good idea to check other cars parked in the garage and consider replacing the location ！.

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#70
  • なるほど
  • 2022/12/01 (Thu) 07:45
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Prius is an easy target? I hear that Prius is more likely to be targeted, but even if the quality of the material is not a factor, the number of thefts will go up because of the large number of cars.
I would certainly like to know the probability ！
Does it also affect the sales of cars?

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#71
  • みか
  • 2022/12/03 (Sat) 20:00
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A friend of mine had his CAT stolen and his Prius was sold.

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#72
  • dji
  • 2022/12/04 (Sun) 09:43
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Prius sells for ＄ 500, other cars sell for ＄ 100. I guess they are going for the Prius ！.

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#73
  • 対策
  • 2022/12/04 (Sun) 11:10
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Thieves will always casing a place, not haphazardly, so changing the parking spot every day is better than doing nothing. The worst thing to do seems to be a regular pattern of behavior.

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#74
  • Ted
  • 2022/12/04 (Sun) 14:40
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I guess it's not impossible for them to be haphazard, but it's more likely that they are casing the place.
Some people steal again from a car they stole once, so they wouldn't be afraid to go back and forth to the scene.

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#75
  • ところで
  • 2022/12/05 (Mon) 12:45
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Doesn't a Prius run without an engine ？?

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#76
  • はっ?
  • 2022/12/05 (Mon) 19:50
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#75
What? What do you mean?

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#77
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/12/06 (Tue) 07:09
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If you drive a Prius with the EV indicator on
is the gasoline engine not working?
I'm not quite sure.

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#78
  • 紅夜叉
  • 2022/12/06 (Tue) 09:19
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Is there such a thing as a car without an engine?

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#79
  • はっ?
  • 2022/12/06 (Tue) 20:40
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Someone explain.

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#80
  • 昭和のおとっつぁん
  • 2022/12/07 (Wed) 10:36
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If you look at the engine compartment of a Tesla car, you can see how it is built.

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#81
  • 倍金万
  • 2022/12/07 (Wed) 13:06
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＞ Does the Prius run without an engine ？

Does it have a gasoline engine ？ , if so, yes.

Does it run without engine ？ ? This is called a "hybrid".

Also, at high speeds such as freeway driving, the air hitting the front of the car at constant velocity is not so ridiculous, in other words, air resistance reduces the speed, and the gas engine also rotates with more power to overcome it, so fuel consumption is lower than at 30 km/h - 45 km/h. Even so, when running at a constant speed of 60 km/h, the fuel consumption is much better than that of a gas engine car.

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#82
  • おっさん
  • 2022/12/07 (Wed) 14:27
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Lies start again. Enough is enough

Most Prius owners say they can run if they run out of gas, about 2 km
And Toyota's website says


Running out of gas while driving （ Running out of fuel ） If the vehicle runs out of fuel, as a rule, it cannot be driven.
Drive battery ＊ 1 If there is some remaining power, the vehicle can travel only as far as waiting on the shoulder of the road with motor drive only. ＊ 2
However, depending on the remaining power of the drive battery, the vehicle may not be able to travel that distance, so please refuel promptly when the fuel level becomes low.
Please note that plug-in hybrid vehicles cannot continue
EV driving （ or motor-only driving ） even if there is electricity remaining in the drive battery charged from an external power source.

If the hybrid vehicle runs out of gas before the hybrid system starts, the hybrid vehicle cannot run at all.
For plug-in hybrid vehicles, the hybrid system will start if the battery is charged from an external power source, but the vehicle can only travel as far as a safe place to retreat to.
Refuel until the fuel level warning light in the meter goes out.

＊ 1 Drive battery ： Nickel metal hydride battery or lithium-ion battery. The type of drive battery depends on the vehicle model ・ year ・ specification.
＊ 2 The following vehicle types cannot run at all if out of gas.

Alphard Hybrid （ 2003/7 ～ 2008/3 model ） , Estima Hybrid （ 2001/6 ～ 2006/6 model ） ,
Crown Sedan Mild Hybrid （ 2002/10 ～ 2008/4 model ） , Crown Royal Mild Hybrid （ 2001/8 ～ 2003/12 model ）

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#84
  • れいた
  • 2022/12/07 (Wed) 17:33
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I'm not sure what #82 means.
Isn't that close to what #81 is saying after all?

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#86
  • 団塊
  • 2022/12/08 (Thu) 09:02
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＞ Most Prius owners say they can run when they run out of gas, about 2 km


I found this on youtube. It certainly seems to be able to run a few kilometers.

30-series Prius out of fuel （ Crazy experiment to intentionally run out of gas ）
↓
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXnhrLS0is

I thought the bartery was always fully charged while generating power from the engine, but it's not.
Prius is too advanced for me to understand.

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#87
  • 心配
  • 2022/12/09 (Fri) 17:45
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A friend of mine, Neighbor, also had his CAT stolen.
It's a safe area...
He said it was a TOYOTA truck.

And I also learned that my colleague drives a Prius and is street parking without CAT security.
"Mine is fine!" he said, but it may just be a matter of time.

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#88
  • 不真面目
  • 2022/12/11 (Sun) 16:15
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I am fine.
No way, it won't happen to me.

I can't get through to him anymore. The coworker is so optimistic in spite of the news.

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#90
  • アパート群
  • 2022/12/13 (Tue) 11:09
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If the area were quiet and full of houses, there would be no such crime.

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#91
  • 読まない人のコメントって
  • 2022/12/13 (Tue) 11:26
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No, there is damage even in areas with only one house.
I know someone who lives in a safe, quiet, single family neighborhood, and that area has been damaged as well.
People parked in driveways have also been victimized.
You should read the topi from the beginning.

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#92
  • アパート群
  • 2022/12/13 (Tue) 22:24
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In an area with only one house and few cars on the street or parked on the street, the noise should be noticed immediately and neighbors and others should be able to report or film the noise.

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#95
  • 読まない人のコメントって
  • 2022/12/14 (Wed) 02:35
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I don't want to post the same thing over and over again, but why don't you read the responses?
You can easily read the news online too.
What if I write about actual damage that happened, but you don't read the responses and keep saying similar things?

Thefts only take a few minutes, so if there are no shields or other security measures in place, they will take it without caring if there is some noise. (Some people have been robbed even if they have security measures in place. \v463> Also, even if you have an alarm installed, you are still being victimized, and by the time you realize it, it has been stolen, and even if you rush to the scene immediately, you will most likely not get away unscathed, such as one part of the CAT has been severed.
Of course, some people have been caught, but the damage is still ongoing.
Even in quiet residential areas, areas known to be safe, there are victims.

This is not rare news, and I am surprised that people are saying this now.
Let's find out for ourselves.

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#96
  • 読まない人のコメントって
  • 2022/12/14 (Wed) 02:39
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↑ and lastly.
It's tedious.

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#97
  • 注意
  • 2022/12/15 (Thu) 14:45
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If the cost of repair is too low, please ask if the smog will pass.
Some people try to put on a CAT that does not pass smog at a very low cost.

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#98
  • コバ
  • 2022/12/15 (Thu) 22:34
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It's a disgusting world.

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#99
  • 昭和のおとっつあん。
  • 2022/12/16 (Fri) 07:04
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Ask if the smog will pass. If you are told that it is ok
I am not sure what to do.

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